<div dir="auto">Could some non-ATT outages be people trying to reach ATT destinations?<div dir="auto">V</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 18:39 the keyboard of geoff goodfellow via Nnagain <<a href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">if you look/see The Requisite "HUMPS" of/at all the carriers at <a href="https://downdetector.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://downdetector.com/</a> it seems to be more than just AT&T being involved</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 2:25 PM Bill Woodcock via Nnagain <<a href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I have not seen any credible evidence of any networks other than AT&T being involved. <br>
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The rumors of something to do with a SIM database don’t explain all the PRI trunks down, but those predated the mobile outages, so it might be two unrelated issues. <br>
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> On Feb 22, 2024, at 10:12 PM, Dave Taht via Nnagain <<a href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 3:52 PM David Bray, PhD via Nnagain<br>
> <<a href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> <a href="https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/cellular-outage-in-us-hits-at-t-t-mobile-and-verizon-users-downdetector-shows/ar-BB1iHBMF" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/cellular-outage-in-us-hits-at-t-t-mobile-and-verizon-users-downdetector-shows/ar-BB1iHBMF</a><br>
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> I had feared this was the natural outgrowth of the devastating DNS<br>
> KEYTRAP attack that was announced yesterday:<br>
> <a href="https://www.darkreading.com/cloud-security/keytrap-dns-bug-threatens-widespread-internet-outages" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.darkreading.com/cloud-security/keytrap-dns-bug-threatens-widespread-internet-outages</a><br>
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> But so far the bet on nanog is that "oops, cisco deleted the sim database."<br>
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> I think they are being snarky about "the" sim database. I´m pretty<br>
> sure they are just being snarky...<br>
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>> A cellular outage in the United States was reported by AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon and other network users on Thursday, according to outage tracking website Downdetector.com.<br>
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>> The number of reports of AT&T outages peaked at 31,931 at around 4:30 a.m. ET, data from Downdetector, which tracks outages by collating status reports from sources including user-submitted errors on its platform, showed.<br>
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>> More than 800 service outages of U.S. wireless carriers Verizon and T-Mobile were also reported on the platform.<br>
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>> Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T did not immediately reply to Reuters' requests for comment.<br>
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>> And this - I was just on a call where it's clear this is increasing: <a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/cyberattacks-on-hospitals-are-likely-to-increase-putting-lives-at-risk-experts-warn/ar-BB1ihhll" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/cyberattacks-on-hospitals-are-likely-to-increase-putting-lives-at-risk-experts-warn/ar-BB1ihhll</a><br>
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>> WASHINGTON (AP) — Cybersecurity experts are warning that hospitals around the country are at risk for attacks like the one that is crippling operations at a premier Midwestern children's hospital, and that the U.S. government is doing too little prevent such breaches.<br>
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>> Hospitals in recent years have shifted their use of online technology to support everything from telehealth to medical devices to patient records. Today, they are a favorite target for internet thieves who hold systems' data and networks hostage for hefty ransoms, said John Riggi, the American Hospital Association’s cybersecurity adviser.<br>
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