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    Especially when the message was "Hi $firstname,"<br>
    (as in his address book $firstname $lastname = Network Neutrality
    Again)<br>
    O.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/03/2024 11:27, Vint Cerf via
      Nnagain wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">yes, I should have been more precise - that's what
        I had in mind, too.
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at
          6:28 AM Bill Woodcock <<a href="mailto:woody@pch.net"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">woody@pch.net</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div> Rather than a hack, per se, I suspect that it’s a
                dot-com abusing Steve’s trust and his contacts, spamming
                all of them.</div>
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                  <span style="font-size:12px">                         
                          -Bill</span></div>
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                <div>On Wednesday, Mar 13, 2024 at 11:22, Vint Cerf via
                  Nnagain <<a
                    href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">i wondered whether this was a hack. Not
                    like Steve to do this.
                    <div>v</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 13,
                      2024 at 6:20 AM Christopher Hawker via Nnagain
                      <<a href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
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                            With all due respect, I didn't think this
                            was a mailing list to advertise paid
                            services.</div>
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                            Dave?</div>
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                            Regards,</div>
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                            Christopher Hawker</div>
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                              face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
                              Nnagain <<a
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                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nnagain-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>>
                              on behalf of Steve Crocker via Nnagain
                              <<a
href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank"
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>><br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 13, 2024
                              9:18 PM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank"
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>
                              <<a
href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank"
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>><br>
                              <b>Cc:</b> Steve Crocker <<a
                                href="mailto:steve@shinkuro.com"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">steve@shinkuro.com</a>><br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> [NNagain] Verified Email</font>
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                          <div>Hi Network,<br>
                            <br>
                            I’ve been using a new tool called <a
name="m_126708218121038700_m_-4695285960675468170_x_verified-email-product-link"
href="https://verified.inc/verified-email?email=nnagain%40lists.bufferbloat.net&verificationCode=756653&referralCode=tcp16fM4W47y"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
                              Verified Email</a>. It runs in my inbox
                            and shows me who’s a real person — saves
                            time and reduces spam.<br>
                            <br>
                            Thought you might find it useful. Here’s my
                            <a
href="https://wallet.verified.inc/authentication?email=nnagain%40lists.bufferbloat.net&verificationCode=756653&referralCode=tcp16fM4W47y"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
                              invite link</a> if you want to try it.<br>
                            <br>
                            Steve<br>
                            <br>
                            <div style="display:none">Sent by a Verified</div>
                            <div style="display:block"><a
href="https://wallet.unumid.co/authenticate?referralCode=tcp16fM4W47y"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><img
                                  alt="Sent by a Verified sender"
src="https://unum-id-email-extension-assets.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Badges/Verified+Badge+200px.png"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true" width="100"
                                  height="24.4"> </a></div>
                            <div style="display:none">sender</div>
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                      <div>Please send any postal/overnight deliveries
                        to:</div>
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                        <div>Vint Cerf</div>
                        <div>Google, LLC</div>
                        <div>1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor</div>
                        <div>Reston, VA 20190</div>
                        <div><a href="tel:(571)%20213-1346"
                            value="+15712131346" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">+1 (571) 213 1346</a><br>
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                      <div>until further notice</div>
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          <div>Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to:</div>
          <div>
            <div>Vint Cerf</div>
            <div>Google, LLC</div>
            <div>1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor</div>
            <div>Reston, VA 20190</div>
            <div>+1 (571) 213 1346<br>
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          <div>until further notice</div>
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