<div dir="auto">The hard part is life support systems and not so much the rockets. Musk handwaves and claims life support is easy, both on Mars and in the spacecraft t/fro. The song reveals it's not so easy to keep humans healthy and well, even on this earth where humans evolved to survive.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Musk constantly fails in his claims. His cult like following demonstrates Festinger's When Phrophecy Fails. Failed prophecy which, counter to intuition, strengthens the cult's belief in their leader. It's an illness and not something to promote by my judgment. I think us selecting leaders and peers that work from a basis of reality is they way to improve things. See the world as it is.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">"<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:-apple-system,blinkmacsystemfont,"segoe ui",roboto,inter,helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> the team had seen that in some cases the failure of a prophecy, rather than causing a rejection of the original belief system, could lead believers to increase their personal commitment, and also increase their efforts to recruit others into the belief"</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:-apple-system,blinkmacsystemfont,"segoe ui",roboto,inter,helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 6, 2024, 6:14 PM Dave Taht <<a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dave.taht@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 10:46 AM Robert McMahon <<a href="mailto:rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">SpaceX is no better than NASA by my opinion. A proper critique was done in 1970 and still applies today. See link. I grew up in Houston & with astronauts & their kids because LBJ was from Texas. Seen space projects my entire life. Focus should be on our planet and robots on the others. The ego centric view of manned space flight is an illness by my opinion. <div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://youtu.be/wtSSP8FVUGY?feature=shared" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/wtSSP8FVUGY?feature=shared</a></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Hey, thx. I had heard of, but not heard, that poem before.<div><br></div><div>As a counter, for the inspiring need for humans in space: try: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD1ixTr4JWY&t=50s" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD1ixTr4JWY&t=50s</a></div><div><br></div><div>Otherwise I do generally prefer robotic exploration. Building and flying modernized versions of this would be fun: <a href="https://dartslab.jpl.nasa.gov/References/pdf/2019-mars-heli.pdf" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://dartslab.jpl.nasa.gov/References/pdf/2019-mars-heli.pdf</a><div title="Open with pdfFiller" style="background:rgb(255,128,21);width:40px;display:inline-block;margin-left:10px;padding:4px 6px 4px 4px;line-height:0"><img style="background:none"></div></div><div><br></div><div>hopefully tomorrow Hera launches!</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Bob</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 3, 2024, 7:03 PM Dave Taht via Nnagain <<a href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br clear="all"><div><a href="https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2024/10/02/sls-is-still-a-national-disgrace/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2024/10/02/sls-is-still-a-national-disgrace/</a><br></div><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos<br></div></div></div></div>
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