<div dir="ltr"><div>My great pleasure, Tanya. Btw, when I'm at it, here is a talk Dave gave at Battlemesh v8 in Maribor, Slovenia, in 2015, and people love it a lot:</div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb-UnHDw02o">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb-UnHDw02o</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Hope you guys will enjoy it as well.</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>All the best,</div><div><br></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Frank<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Frantisek (Frank) Borsik<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><b><u></u>In loving memory of Dave Täht: </b><span style="color:rgb(32,33,36)">1965-2025</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><u></u><a href="https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/" target="_blank">https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/</a></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">iMessage, mobile: +420775230885<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Skype: casioa5302ca<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="mailto:frantisek.borsik@gmail.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">frantisek.borsik@gmail.com</a></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 4:22 PM Tanya Weiman via Nnagain <<a href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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