over here: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/virgin-media-discussion-thread.17701788/page-1118 (thread started at 1117, but...) -- I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC