[Starlink] Starlink terminal detector

Dave Taht dave.taht at gmail.com
Mon Dec 19 11:07:04 EST 2022


On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 7:54 AM Eric via Starlink
<starlink at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> Get a bunch of US$3 ESP8266 devices, set them up in AP mode with spoofed Starlink MACs and BSSIDs, power them with solar cells + old vape-pen batteries and spread them all over the place.  There's nothing like causing the other side to shoot $50k missiles at a $15 decoy.

Well, the difference in amount of traffic generated by an idle AP vs
one in use would be large, and the interference
caused by simulating traffic on the other APs a pita, but narrow
channels and a bunch of APs does thin the herd.

Meshy mode, at least adhoc, has fewer identifying signatures in the
packet header, making an "AP" less obvious.

>
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Sunday, December 18th, 2022 at 20:49, David Lang via Starlink <starlink at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>
> > and change the name of the starlink wifi so it doesn't stand out as much.
> >
> > David Lang
> >
> > On Mon, 19 Dec 2022, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote:
> >
> > > From the beginning, the general rule is don't use Starlink WiFi. Or
> > > hide the router somewhere to reduce RF emissions.
> > >
> > > We have developed a set of rules and recommendations about using a PoE
> > > injector or bypassing the Starlink router.
> > > Unfortunately, a lot of people ignore safety.
> > >
> > > But there are some countermeasures on the way.
> > >
> > > On 12/19/22 05:03, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote:
> > >
> > > > Actually, there is nothing special.
> > > >
> > > > You can capture WiFi beacons and get a BSSID with a good directional
> > > > antenna. 10 - 15 km it's not a problem.
> > > >
> > > > They are filtering Starlink router BSSID to figure out that somewhere
> > > > there is Starlink.
> > > > Starlink WiFi router uses Tibro corp. (74:24: prefix).
> > > > On 12/19/22 04:41, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Starlink detector boasted about... 10km range.
> > >
> > > https://www.notebookcheck.net/Starlink-terminal-detection-radar-to-enter-testing-in-Ukraine-as-per-Russian-military-blogger.675439.0.html
> > >
> > > > > I would have figured on starlinks less further front, combined with
> > > > > non los radios and ptp wifi being viable. Targeting every wifi
> > > > > transmitter is a low percentage play, and adhoc modes for directional
> > > > > wifi with synthetic mac's harder to distinguish ...
> > > > >
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