[Starlink] mike puchol + starlink at battlemesh

Wed Apr 12 23:23:33 EDT 2023

what is it you are thinking o of doing? I just had my round starlink replaced, 
so will have two rectangular ones for at least a short while (I will probably 
switch one of them to the roaming/best effort plan). I do plan to cut the cable 
for one and convert it to a normal plug/PoE injector, and may do it for both.

I already have a Turris router running mwan3 between cablemodem and DSL. I've 
been meaning to add a starlink to this for a while, but the supply chain 
shorting has hit those circular toits hard :-)

David Lang

  On Wed, 12 Apr 2023, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote:

> What mike had offered to do was drop off 3 spare starlink terminals he
> has at the start of the event. I personally would love to see how well
> that could then be used in an overlay network, or, with source
> specific routing on a complicated setup. Imagine several villages
> connected to each other over mesh, with power issues, and multiple
> uplinks setup like that. It has been a severe disappointment to me to
> see the low quality of the openwrt based router they ship, I would
> have hoped to have made it easier to actually setup a good ole
> fashioned network with actual local assets like email, (matrix) chat,
> and fileservice, even local web sites, especially since they do
> support ipv6 in many cases.
>
> They DO support some sort of meshing protocol, but I do not know what it is.
>
> Me, I would STRONGLY encourage him to also speak in depth about his
> experience with starlink so far, and also his adventures in africa,
> and record it! He is a pretty busy guy tho! I hope it comes together.
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:45 AM Albert Rafetseder
> <albert.rafetseder at univie.ac.at> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mike!
>>
>> Sorry for the delayed response, our distributed organization model shows
>> :-)
>>
>> We'd love you to join our event and talk about Starlink (.sx)! Do you
>> have any preferences in terms of date, time, duration, infrastructure
>> etc. for your talk? Or is it rather a workshop? Kindly let us know so we
>> can find a suitable spot on the schedule for you.
>>
>> Needless to say (we think), our event is free of charge and you are
>> cordially invited to hang out with us before & after your talk.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>    Albert for the v15 orga team.
>>
>> Am 22.03.2023 20:10, schrieb Pedro:
>> > It is nice you would like to join us, let me add to the track the rest
>> > of the group that is organizing the v15 edition
>> >
>> > In fact, I would appreciate if another person takes care of this,
>> > because I am focusing in more core things to make the event happen
>> > such as cashflow and The Testbed
>> >
>> > On 3/22/23 16:55, Dave Taht wrote:
>> >> intro - guys, mike puchol is deeply active in africa and elsewhere,
>> >> and also the founder of https://starlink.sx/
>> >>
>> >> he would be a GREAT SPEAKER for battlemesh...
>> >>
>> >> ... and he also has some gear he could add to the mix, described
>> >> below.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 7:33 AM Mike Puchol <mike at starlink.sx> wrote:
>> >>> I happen to live about 30 minutes by car from the venue, so I'd be
>> >>> happy to turn up with my three Starlink terminals, plus whatever
>> >>> random stuff my wife would be happy to see me to remove from the
>> >>> house (even if temporarily!).
>> >>>
>> >>> Shall I ping Ilario directly or can you make an introduction?
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>>
>> >>> Mike
>> >>> On Mar 22, 2023 at 14:46 +0100, Dave Taht via Starlink
>> >>> <starlink at lists.bufferbloat.net>, wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Battlemesh is a small, extremely low-cost, technically oriented
>> >>> conference (and camp out) with some policy aspects, that contains a
>> >>> lot of core, community network, openwrt, wifi and (especially)
>> >>> routing
>> >>> protocol developers. The overt purpose is to test interop of multiple
>> >>> devices together, but it is usually far more social and diverse than
>> >>> that. It is about as non-commercial as you can get, and this year, it
>> >>> is happening in Barcelona Monday 2023-05-08 to Sunday 2023-05-14, in
>> >>> a
>> >>> rather unique location. I gave my big make-wifi-fast talk here ages
>> >>> ago, and it is an eye opener as to how the internet is strung
>> >>> together
>> >>> in Spain, Germany, and eastern Europe, South America, and indeed, the
>> >>> rest of the world, living on less dollars per day.
>> >>>
>> >>> It would be cool if someone(s) showed up with a starlink terminal, or
>> >>> more gear, or a libreqos box, to add to the mix. My own focus
>> >>> (outside
>> >>> of fixing wifi itself) was largely on improving the babel protocol,
>> >>> but the BATMAN protocol is popular there, as well as several others.
>> >>>
>> >>> from: https://battlemesh.org/BattleMeshV15
>> >>>
>> >>> "We welcome contributions that broadly address these questions from
>> >>> any of several perspectives: technical, organisational, economical,
>> >>> regulatory, juridical, political. Example topics:
>> >>>
>> >>> Wireless Community Networks
>> >>> Community Networks that deploy Fiber-to-the-Home (FTTH) networks
>> >>> TV white space as a precious network resource (radio spectrum)
>> >>> Free hardware and free software for Community Networks
>> >>> How to organize a durable community structure?
>> >>> How to involve non-technical people? To "digital stewardship" and
>> >>> beyond?
>> >>> How to disseminate the spirit of community networks, knowledge etc?
>> >>> Connecting rural areas: challenges and solutions
>> >>> Public fiber networks: architecture, funding, private actors
>> >>> involved, oversight
>> >>> Internet of Things (IoT) networks and their impact on society
>> >>> How to take advantage of a community network in ways otherwise not
>> >>> possible? What are the applications?
>> >>> Local Internet Exchange Points (IXPs) as a common infrastructure
>> >>> DNS as a common infrastructure?"
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> >>> From: Ilario Gelmetti <iochesonome at gmail.com>
>> >>> Date: Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 10:38 AM
>> >>> Subject: [Battlemesh] Announcement: Wireless Battlemesh v15 is coming
>> >>> up in May 8-14
>> >>> To: Battlemesh <battlemesh at ml.ninux.org>
>> >>> Cc: <v15 at battlemesh.org>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>> The Wireless Battle of the Mesh is going live for its 15th edition.
>> >>> This
>> >>> time for a full *week* again!
>> >>>
>> >>> The dates and venue have been set by the WBM community:
>> >>>
>> >>> 8-14th of May 2023
>> >>> Calafou, Vallbona d'Anoia, Barcelona
>> >>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/41.51115/1.70263
>> >>> https://calafou.org/web/index.php/sobre-calafou#eng
>> >>>
>> >>> Please find the information we gathered so-far on the wiki page:
>> >>> https://battlemesh.org/BattleMeshV15
>> >>>
>> >>> Different accommodation options are available at Calafou:
>> >>> * Camping - the great outdoors is calling. Please bring your own
>> >>> camping
>> >>> gear (tent, caravan, etc).
>> >>> * Bunk Bed - pick one of the available bunk beds covered by a proper
>> >>> roof.
>> >>>
>> >>> Accommodation Packages are available, valid for BOTH camping and bunk
>> >>> beds, but they have limited availability and require registration
>> >>> beforehand:
>> >>>
>> >>> * Early bird package: 60 EUR for 6 nights
>> >>> * Late booking package: 100 EUR for 6 nights
>> >>>
>> >>> Book until **March 31st** to enjoy early bird booking discount! The
>> >>> packages are attributed on a first-come first-serve basis, so
>> >>> register
>> >>> as soon as possible!
>> >>> See https://battlemesh.org/BattleMeshV15/AccomodationPackage
>> >>>
>> >>> Please help us spread the word by forwarding the announcement below.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks!
>> >>> The WBMv15 orga team.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ==========================================================
>> >>> The Wireless Battle Mesh v15
>> >>> 8th - 14th of May 2023, Calafou / Barcelona (Europe)
>> >>> ==========================================================
>> >>>
>> >>> The next 'Wireless Battle of the Mesh' (Battlemesh) will take place
>> >>> from
>> >>> Mon 8th - Sun 14th of May 2023 in Calafou (https://calafou.org/) near
>> >>> Barcelona (Europe).
>> >>>
>> >>> The Wireless Battle Mesh is a non-commercial, volunteer-organized
>> >>> annual
>> >>> convention.
>> >>> The convention features a variety of talks and workshops on technical
>> >>> and political issues related to mesh networking, wireless community
>> >>> networks and OpenWrt firmware development.
>> >>>
>> >>> The purpose of the event is to further topics such as right to
>> >>> connectivity, community-owned infrastructure and related free open
>> >>> source projects.
>> >>>
>> >>> There will be 6 days full of expert presentations, late night hacking
>> >>> sessions, measurement campaigns, protocol discussions, and a lot of
>> >>> other meshy things.
>> >>>
>> >>> So if you are a mesh networking enthusiast, community networking
>> >>> activist, or have an interest in mesh networks in general, you have
>> >>> to
>> >>> check this out!
>> >>>
>> >>> Continuously updated information about the event available at
>> >>> https://battlemesh.org/BattleMeshV15
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Location
>> >>> ========
>> >>>
>> >>> The Battlemesh v15 will be hosted by the fabulous Calafou / colonia
>> >>> ecoindustrial postcapitalista members in Barcelona, Europe.
>> >>>
>> >>> The Calafou compound is very spacious and offers plenty of room for
>> >>> hacking, workshops, socializing, building test beds and more!
>> >>>
>> >>> You can check some pictures of the spaces at the Battlemesh wiki
>> >>> page.
>> >>> Instructions on how to arrive by train and from BCN airport will be
>> >>> provided soon on the same page.
>> >>>
>> >>> https://battlemesh.org/BattleMeshV15#Where
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Accommodation Offering
>> >>> ======================
>> >>>
>> >>> Different accommodation options are available at Calafou:
>> >>> * Camping - the great outdoors is calling. Please bring your own camp
>> >>> gear (tent, caravan, etc) right at the venue.
>> >>> * Bunk Bed - pick one of the available bunk beds covered by a proper
>> >>> roof.
>> >>>
>> >>> Accommodation Packages, valid both for camping or bunk beds, have
>> >>> limited availability and require registration beforehand.
>> >>> * Early bird package: 60 EUR (6 nights)
>> >>> * Late booking package: 100 EUR (6 nights)
>> >>>
>> >>> Book until *March 31st* to enjoy early bird booking discount! The
>> >>> packages are attributed on a first-come first-serve basis, so
>> >>> register
>> >>> as soon as possible!
>> >>>
>> >>> Please check the Battlemesh wiki page for more details.
>> >>>
>> >>> https://battlemesh.org/BattleMeshV15/AccomodationPackage
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Registration
>> >>> ============
>> >>>
>> >>> The event is *free of charge* and open for all. However, it makes the
>> >>> organization much easier if you tell us in advance that you plan to
>> >>> come.
>> >>>
>> >>> To register, please send an email to v15 at battlemesh.org with the
>> >>> following content:
>> >>>
>> >>> ########
>> >>> Subject: Registration
>> >>>
>> >>> Name and/or Nick:
>> >>> Date of arrival/departure:
>> >>> Accommodation package: [Yes/No]
>> >>> T-Shirt Size: [S/M/L/none, straight or fitted cut]
>> >>> Other details you want to share: (e.g. community, country, URLs,
>> >>> twitter/mastodon handle, dietary restrictions, ...)
>> >>> Do you agree to appear on the public list of participants? [Yes/No]
>> >>> ########
>> >>>
>> >>> If your answer to the last question is YES, you can go ahead and add
>> >>> yourself to the public participants list right away (otherwise we
>> >>> will
>> >>> do it for you):
>> >>> http://battlemesh.org/BattleMeshV15/Participants
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Schedule and Call for participation
>> >>> ===================================
>> >>>
>> >>> The event will feature organized talks, workshops and discussion
>> >>> panels
>> >>> on community networks and wireless mesh networks. There will also be
>> >>> more informal activities: cooperative hacking, self-organized
>> >>> projects,
>> >>> and (we hope) delightful conversations! In addition, there may be a
>> >>> self-organized wireless mesh network, running different routing
>> >>> protocols to compare them. Please coordinate directly on the
>> >>> Battlemesh
>> >>> mailing list (see link below) to make that happen.
>> >>>
>> >>> The schedule is being updated at:
>> >>> https://battlemesh.org/BattleMeshV15#Talk_Schedule_and_Workshops
>> >>>
>> >>> We invite participants to propose workshops, talks or panel
>> >>> discussions
>> >>> relating to network infrastructure in general, how it can be built
>> >>> and
>> >>> operated as a common, and how to sustain a community around
>> >>> networking.
>> >>> We welcome contributions that broadly address these questions from
>> >>> any
>> >>> of several perspectives: technical, organisational, economical,
>> >>> regulatory, juridical, political. Example topics:
>> >>>
>> >>> * Wireless Community Networks
>> >>> * Community Networks that deploy Fiber-to-the-Home (FTTH) networks
>> >>> * TV white space as a precious network resource (radio spectrum)
>> >>> * Free hardware and free software for Community Networks
>> >>> * How to organize a durable community structure?
>> >>> * How to involve non-technical people? To "digital stewardship" and
>> >>> beyond?
>> >>> * How to disseminate the spirit of community networks, knowledge etc?
>> >>> * Connecting rural areas: challenges and solutions
>> >>> * Public fiber networks: architecture, funding, private actors
>> >>> involved,
>> >>> oversight
>> >>> * Internet of Things (IoT) networks and their impact on society
>> >>> * How to take advantage of a community network in ways otherwise not
>> >>> possible? What are the applications?
>> >>> * Local Internet Exchange Points (IXPs) as a common infrastructure
>> >>> * DNS as a common infrastructure
>> >>>
>> >>> Please check the wiki page on how to submit your proposal.
>> >>> https://battlemesh.org/BattleMeshV15#Call_for_participation
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Travel Support Grants
>> >>> =====================
>> >>> The Team at https://cdt.org invites all participants who are in need
>> >>> of
>> >>> financial support for their long haul flight to check out this travel
>> >>> fund:
>> >>>
>> >>> https://gitlab.com/pitg/fund
>> >>>
>> >>> (When sending an application, please add v15 at battlemesh.org in CC).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Spread the Word
>> >>> ===============
>> >>>
>> >>> Please help us spreading the word by forwarding this announcement to
>> >>> all
>> >>> lists and people that might be interested. Blogging about it is also
>> >>> very appreciated, and if you do so, please add a ping-back to the
>> >>> wiki
>> >>> page: http://battlemesh.org/BattleMeshV15
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Contact
>> >>> =======
>> >>>
>> >>> * Web: http://battlemesh.org/BattleMeshV15
>> >>> * Public Mailing List:
>> >>> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
>> >>> * Orga crew: v15 at battlemesh.org
>> >>> * https://matrix.to/#/#battlemesh:matrix.org
>> >>> * Twitter: https://twitter.com/battlemesh/
>> >>> * Mastodon: https://toot.aquilenet.fr/@battlemesh
>> >>>
>> >>> The WBMv15 orga team.
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Battlemesh mailing list
>> >>> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
>> >>> https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> >>
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