[Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

[Freddie Cash]

Dishy gets a /64 and I've tested DHCPv6 on both my Firewalla and my USG.
They do prefix delegation to distribute that as a /56 locally.

No NAT required for IPv6 (incoming or outgoing) connections. And there
doesn't appear to be any restrictions on IPv6 traffic.

This is with the round Dishy.

Cheers,
Freddie

Typos due to smartphone keyboard.

On Thu, Dec 7, 2023, 3:54 a.m. Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink <
starlink at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

>
> Le 04/12/2023 à 19:17, J Pan via Starlink a écrit :
> > yes, starlink does respond to its customers' complaints, although
> > sometimes slowly. its ipv4 address acquisition is scattered around as
> > a latecomer to the isp world, and as a global local isp, it's more
> > troublesome. ip packets have to be tunneled back to its home pop where
> > nat and other functions happen, sometimes around the world, causing a
> > much higher minimum rtt fluctuation in 15-second handover
> > intervals---bad for network protocols and applications. ipv6 can do
> > better but currently follows the same route as ipv4---an incentive to
> > promote ipv6 ;-)
>
> Excellent incentive!
>
> It would be good to know whether the dishy router obtains a /56 or a /64
> prefix from the starlink ISP.  That is easy to find out by just looking
> at the packets.  This would tell whether a NAT can be avoided at home,
> and hence more apps made possible.
>
> IT would also be good to  know whether the claimed IPv6 access on dishy
> is via a tunnel (IPv6 in IPv6, or IPv6 in IPv4) or it is 'native' (no
> tunnel).  That will tell many things about additional latency that might
> be brought in by IPv6.  (we'd want less latency, not more).
>
> After that, one can look more at promoting IPv6.  Otherwise, IPv6 might
> still look as a hurdle, an obstacle, additional work that is too little
> necessary, or might even be worse than IPv4.
>
> Alex
>
> > --
> > J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan at UVic.CA,
> Web.UVic.CA/~pan
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 4:04 AM Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net>
> wrote:
> >> Thanks, it seems they are trying it on then :)
> >>
> >> On 04/12/2023 10:44, J Pan wrote:
> >>
> >> starlink advertises its customer ip address location at
> >> http://geoip.starlinkisp.net (not always updated but good enough in
> >> most cases and traceroute can confirm to some extent as well)
> >> --
> >> J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), Pan at UVic.CA,
> Web.UVic.CA/~pan
> >>
> >> On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 4:15 PM Noel Butler via Starlink
> >> <starlink at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I run an open access usenet server, but only for those within my CC, so
> access is by IP based on our CC allocations from APNIC.
> >>
> >> Because IPv4 exhaustion this changes sometimes with buying allocations
> from other regions, and if they get denied access I encourage them to let
> us know so we can keep ACL's updated, I've had a request from a starlink
> user who claims they are here, but traceroute shows them in .DE
> >>
> >> tracing some 217.foo.ad.dr
> >>
> >> ...
> >> 9 ae-6.r21.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.183) 290.223 ms
> 290.180 ms ae-1.r20.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.7.35) 280.523 ms
> >> 10 ae-1.a03.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.152) 290.109 ms
> 289.667 ms 292.864 ms
> >> 11 ae-0.spacex.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net (213.198.72.19) 279.611 ms
> 278.840 ms 279.592 ms
> >> 12 undefined.hostname.localhost (206.224.65.189) 280.127 ms 278.506 ms
> 284.265 ms
> >> 13 undefined.hostname.localhost (206.224.65.209) 284.198 ms
> undefined.hostname.localhost (206.224.65.201) 274.663 ms 273.073 ms
> >> 14 * * *
> >>
> >>
> >> As it is our policy to not collect any user info or issue user/pass's
> and  only allow access by IP, I'm hoping someone here knows if they are
> full of it, or does starlink really assign addresses from anywhere? That
> one hardly makes sense for user experience, or maybe starlink has so few
> users in this country they haven't bothered changing anything yet?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Noel Butler
> >>
> >>
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> >> Regards,
> >> Noel Butler
> >>
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