[Starlink] [NNagain] CFP march 1 - network measurement conference
rjmcmahon
rjmcmahon at rjmcmahon.com
Fri Dec 8 01:03:07 EST 2023
iperf 2 supports OWD in multiple forms.
A raspberry pi 5 has a realtime clock and hardware PTP and gpio PPS. The
retail cost for a pi5 with GPS atomic clock and active fan is less than
$150
[rjmcmahon at fedora iperf2-code]$ src/iperf -c 192.168.1.35 --bounceback
--trip-times --bounceback-period 0 -i 1 -t 4
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.35, TCP port 5001 with pid 48142 (1/0
flows/load)
Bounceback test (req/reply size = 100 Byte/ 100 Byte) (server hold req=0
usecs & tcp_quickack)
TCP congestion control using cubic
TOS set to 0x0 and nodelay (Nagle off)
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
Event based writes (pending queue watermark at 16384 bytes)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 1] local 192.168.1.103%enp4s0 port 50558 connected with 192.168.1.35
port 5001 (prefetch=16384) (bb w/quickack req/reply/hold=100/100/0)
(trip-times) (sock=3) (icwnd/mss/irtt=14/1448/541) (ct=0.59 ms) on
2023-12-07 22:01:39.240 (PST)
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth BB
cnt=avg/min/max/stdev Rtry Cwnd/RTT RPS(avg)
[ 1] 0.00-1.00 sec 739 KBytes 6.05 Mbits/sec
7566=0.130/0.099/0.627/0.007 ms 0 14K/115 us 7666 rps
[ 1] 0.00-1.00 sec OWD (ms) Cnt=7566 TX=0.072/0.038/0.163/0.002
RX=0.058/0.047/0.156/0.004 Asymmetry=0.015/0.001/0.103/0.004
[ 1] 1.00-2.00 sec 745 KBytes 6.10 Mbits/sec
7630=0.130/0.082/0.422/0.005 ms 0 14K/114 us 7722 rps
[ 1] 1.00-2.00 sec OWD (ms) Cnt=7630 TX=0.073/0.027/0.364/0.004
RX=0.057/0.048/0.097/0.003 Asymmetry=0.016/0.000/0.306/0.005
[ 1] 2.00-3.00 sec 749 KBytes 6.14 Mbits/sec
7671=0.129/0.085/0.252/0.004 ms 0 14K/113 us 7756 rps
[ 1] 2.00-3.00 sec OWD (ms) Cnt=7671 TX=0.073/0.031/0.193/0.003
RX=0.056/0.047/0.102/0.003 Asymmetry=0.017/0.000/0.134/0.004
[ 1] 3.00-4.00 sec 737 KBytes 6.04 Mbits/sec
7546=0.131/0.085/0.290/0.004 ms 0 14K/115 us 7629 rps
[ 1] 3.00-4.00 sec OWD (ms) Cnt=7546 TX=0.073/0.030/0.231/0.003
RX=0.058/0.047/0.105/0.003 Asymmetry=0.015/0.000/0.172/0.004
[ 1] 0.00-4.00 sec 2.90 MBytes 6.08 Mbits/sec
30414=0.130/0.082/0.627/0.005 ms 0 14K/376 us 7693 rps
[ 1] 0.00-4.00 sec OWD (ms) Cnt=30414 TX=0.073/0.027/0.364/0.003
RX=0.057/0.047/0.156/0.004 Asymmetry=0.016/0.000/0.306/0.004
[ 1] 0.00-4.00 sec OWD-TX(f)-PDF:
bin(w=100us):cnt(30414)=1:30393,2:19,3:1,4:1
(5.00/95.00/99.7%=1/1/1,Outliers=0,obl/obu=0/0)
[ 1] 0.00-4.00 sec OWD-RX(f)-PDF: bin(w=100us):cnt(30414)=1:30400,2:14
(5.00/95.00/99.7%=1/1/1,Outliers=0,obl/obu=0/0)
[ 1] 0.00-4.00 sec BB8(f)-PDF:
bin(w=100us):cnt(30414)=1:6,2:30392,3:14,5:1,7:1
(5.00/95.00/99.7%=2/2/2,Outliers=16,obl/obu=0/0)
Bob
>> On Dec 6, 2023, at 22:46, Sauli Kiviranta via Nnagain
>> <nnagain at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>> What would be a comprehensive measurement? Should cover all/most
>> relevant areas?
>
> It’s easy to specify a suite of measurements which is too heavy to be
> easily implemented or supported on the network. Also, as you point
> out, many things can be derived from raw data, so don’t necessarily
> require additional specific measurements.
>
>> Payload Size: The size of data being transmitted.
>> Event Rate: The frequency at which payloads are transmitted.
>> Bitrate: The combination of rate and size transferred in a given test.
>> Throughput: The data transfer capability achieved on the test path.
>
> All of that can probably be derived from sufficiently finely-grained
> TCP data. i.e. if you had a PCAP of a TCP flow that constituted the
> measurement, you’d be able to derive all of the above.
>
>> Bandwidth: The data transfer capacity available on the test path.
>
> Presumably the goal of a TCP transaction measurement would be to
> enable this calculation.
>
>> Transfer Efficiency: The ratio of useful payload data to the overhead
>> data.
>
> This is a how-its-used rather than a property-of-the-network. If
> there are network-inherent overheads, they’re likely to be not
> directly visible to endpoints, only inferable, and might require
> external knowledge of the network. So, I’d put this out-of-scope.
>
>> Round-Trip Time (RTT): The ping delay time to the target server and
>> back.
>> RTT Jitter: The variation in the delay of round-trip time.
>> Latency: The transmission delay time to the target server and back.
>> Latency Jitter: The variation in delay of latency.
>
> RTT is measurable. If Latency is RTT minus processing delay on the
> remote end, I’m not sure it’s really measurable, per se, without the
> remote end being able to accurately clock itself, or an independent
> vantage point adjacent to the remote end. This is the
> old[rjmcmahon at fedora iperf2-code]$ src/iperf -c 192.168.1.35
> --bounceback --trip-times --bounceback-period 0 -i 1 -t 4
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.35, TCP port 5001 with pid 46358 (1/0
flows/load)
Bounceback test (req/reply size = 100 Byte/ 100 Byte) (server hold req=0
usecs & tcp_quickack)
TCP congestion control using cubic
TOS set to 0x0 and nodelay (Nagle off)
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
Event based writes (pending queue watermark at 16384 bytes)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 1] local 192.168.1.103%enp4s0 port 60788 connected with 192.168.1.35
port 5001 (prefetch=16384) (bb w/quickack req/reply/hold=100/100/0)
(trip-times) (sock=3) (icwnd/mss/irtt=14/1448/168) (ct=0.23 ms) on
2023-12-07 21:21:31.417 (PST)
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth BB
cnt=avg/min/max/stdev Rtry Cwnd/RTT RPS(avg)
[ 1] 0.00-1.00 sec 745 KBytes 6.10 Mbits/sec
7631=0.129/0.096/0.637/0.007 ms 0 14K/114 us 7733 rps
[ 1] 0.00-1.00 sec OWD (ms) Cnt=7631 TX=0.068/0.034/0.191/0.003
RX=0.061/0.049/0.118/0.004 Asymmetry=0.009/0.000/0.130/0.004
** reset
[ 1] 1.00-2.00 sec 751 KBytes 6.15 Mbits/sec
7689=0.129/0.092/0.350/0.005 ms 0 14K/115 us 7782 rps
[ 1] 1.00-2.00 sec OWD (ms) Cnt=7689 TX=0.069/0.030/0.288/0.004
RX=0.060/0.052/0.116/0.003 Asymmetry=0.009/0.000/0.227/0.004
** reset
[ 1] 2.00-3.00 sec 748 KBytes 6.13 Mbits/sec
7664=0.129/0.085/0.378/0.004 ms 0 14K/115 us 7751 rps
[ 1] 2.00-3.00 sec OWD (ms) Cnt=7664 TX=0.069/0.025/0.313/0.003
RX=0.060/0.053/0.098/0.002 Asymmetry=0.008/0.000/0.248/0.004
** reset
[ 1] 3.00-4.00 sec 752 KBytes 6.16 Mbits/sec
7698=0.128/0.087/0.322/0.004 ms 0 14K/114 us 7787 rps
[ 1] 3.00-4.00 sec OWD (ms) Cnt=7698 TX=0.068/0.023/0.257/0.003
RX=0.060/0.052/0.091/0.002 Asymmetry=0.009/0.000/0.192/0.004
** reset
** reset
[ 1] 0.00-4.00 sec 2.93 MBytes 6.13 Mbits/sec
30683=0.129/0.085/0.637/0.005 ms 0 14K/408 us 7763 rps
[ 1] 0.00-4.00 sec OWD (ms) Cnt=30683 TX=0.068/0.023/0.313/0.003
RX=0.060/0.049/0.118/0.003 Asymmetry=0.009/0.000/0.248/0.004
[ 1] 0.00-4.00 sec OWD-TX(f)-PDF:
bin(w=100us):cnt(30683)=1:30663,2:17,3:2,4:1
(5.00/95.00/99.7%=1/1/1,Outliers=0,obl/obu=0/0)
[ 1] 0.00-4.00 sec OWD-RX(f)-PDF: bin(w=100us):cnt(30683)=1:30669,2:14
(5.00/95.00/99.7%=1/1/1,Outliers=0,obl/obu=0/0)
[ 1] 0.00-4.00 sec BB8(f)-PDF:
bin(w=100us):cnt(30683)=1:7,2:30663,3:9,4:3,7:1
(5.00/95.00/99.7%=2/2/2,Outliers=13,obl/obu=0/0)
[rjmcmahon at fedora iperf2-code]$ emacs src/Reporter.c
[rjmcmahon at fedora iperf2-code]$ make -j
make all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code'
Making all in compat
make[2]: Entering directory
'/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code/compat'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for 'all'.
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code/compat'
Making all in doc
make[2]: Entering directory '/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code/doc'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for 'all'.
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code/doc'
Making all in include
make[2]: Entering directory
'/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code/include'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for 'all'.
make[2]: Leaving directory
'/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code/include'
Making all in src
make[2]: Entering directory '/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code/src'
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I../include -I../include -Wall -O2 -O2
-MT Reporter.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/Reporter.Tpo -c -o Reporter.o
Reporter.c
mv -f .deps/Reporter.Tpo .deps/Reporter.Po
g++ -Wall -O2 -O2 -O2 -pthread -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -o iperf Client.o
Extractor.o isochronous.o Launch.o active_hosts.o Listener.o Locale.o
PerfSocket.o Reporter.o Reports.o ReportOutputs.o Server.o Settings.o
SocketAddr.o gnu_getopt.o gnu_getopt_long.o histogram.o main.o service.o
socket_io.o stdio.o packet_ring.o tcp_window_size.o pdfs.o dscp.o
iperf_formattime.o iperf_multicast_api.o checksums.o
../compat/libcompat.a -lrt
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code/src'
Making all in man
make[2]: Entering directory '/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code/man'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for 'all'.
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code/man'
Making all in flows
make[2]: Entering directory '/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code/flows'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for 'all'.
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code/flows'
make[2]: Entering directory '/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code'
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code'
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rjmcmahon/Code/csv/iperf2-code'
[rjmcmahon at fedora iperf2-code]$ src/iperf -c 192.168.1.35 --bounceback
--trip-times --bounceback-period 0 -i 1 -t 4
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 192.168.1.35, TCP port 5001 with pid 46427 (1/0
flows/load)
Bounceback test (req/reply size = 100 Byte/ 100 Byte) (server hold req=0
usecs & tcp_quickack)
TCP congestion control using cubic
TOS set to 0x0 and nodelay (Nagle off)
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
Event based writes (pending queue watermark at 16384 bytes)
------------------------------------------------------------
[ 1] local 192.168.1.103%enp4s0 port 37748 connected with 192.168.1.35
port 5001 (prefetch=16384) (bb w/quickack req/reply/hold=100/100/0)
(trip-times) (sock=3) (icwnd/mss/irtt=14/1448/177) (ct=0.23 ms) on
2023-12-07 21:21:46.282 (PST)
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth BB
cnt=avg/min/max/stdev Rtry Cwnd/RTT RPS(avg)
[ 1] 0.00-1.00 sec 738 KBytes 6.04 Mbits/sec
7552=0.131/0.115/0.642/0.007 ms 0 14K/115 us 7652 rps
[ 1] 0.00-1.00 sec OWD (ms) Cnt=7552 TX=0.070/0.053/0.184/0.002
RX=0.061/0.048/0.113/0.004 Asymmetry=0.009/0.000/0.116/0.004
[ 1] 1.00-2.00 sec 739 KBytes 6.05 Mbits/sec
7568=0.131/0.078/0.362/0.004 ms 0 14K/114 us 7657 rps
[ 1] 1.00-2.00 sec OWD (ms) Cnt=7568 TX=0.070/0.020/0.298/0.003
RX=0.061/0.051/0.097/0.003 Asymmetry=0.009/0.000/0.235/0.004
[ 1] 2.00-3.00 sec 739 KBytes 6.06 Mbits/sec
7571=0.131/0.089/0.279/0.005 ms 0 14K/115 us 7660 rps
[ 1] 2.00-3.00 sec OWD (ms) Cnt=7571 TX=0.070/0.025/0.215/0.003
RX=0.060/0.051/0.181/0.004 Asymmetry=0.010/0.000/0.151/0.004
[ 1] 3.00-4.00 sec 751 KBytes 6.15 Mbits/sec
7693=0.129/0.090/0.284/0.004 ms 0 14K/115 us 7780 rps
[ 1] 3.00-4.00 sec OWD (ms) Cnt=7693 TX=0.070/0.032/0.223/0.004
RX=0.058/0.050/0.091/0.002 Asymmetry=0.013/0.000/0.162/0.004
[ 1] 0.00-4.00 sec 2.90 MBytes 6.07 Mbits/sec
30385=0.130/0.078/0.642/0.005 ms 0 14K/404 us 7687 rps
[ 1] 0.00-4.00 sec OWD (ms) Cnt=30385 TX=0.070/0.020/0.298/0.003
RX=0.060/0.048/0.181/0.004 Asymmetry=0.010/0.000/0.235/0.004
[ 1] 0.00-4.00 sec OWD-TX(f)-PDF:
bin(w=100us):cnt(30385)=1:30366,2:16,3:3
(5.00/95.00/99.7%=1/1/1,Outliers=0,obl/obu=0/0)
[ 1] 0.00-4.00 sec OWD-RX(f)-PDF: bin(w=100us):cnt(30385)=1:30360,2:25
(5.00/95.00/99.7%=1/1/1,Outliers=0,obl/obu=0/0)
[ 1] 0.00-4.00 sec BB8(f)-PDF:
bin(w=100us):cnt(30385)=1:4,2:30366,3:13,4:1,7:1
(5.00/95.00/99.7%=2/2/2,Outliers=15,obl/obu=0/0)
[rjmcmahon at fedora iperf2-code]$ git diff
> one-way-delay measurement problem in different guise, I think.
> Anyway, I think RTT is easy and necessary, and I think latency is
> difficult and probably an anchor not worth attaching to anything we
> want to see done in the near term. Latency jitter likewise.
>
>> Bit Error Rate: The corrupted bits as a percentage of the total
>> transmitted data.
>
> This seems like it can be derived from a PCAP, but doesn’t really
> constitute an independent measurement.
>
>> Packet Loss: The percentage of packets lost that needed to be
>> recovered.
>
> Yep.
>
>> Energy Efficiency: The amount of energy consumed to achieve the test
>> result.
>
> Not measurable.
>
>> Did I overlook something?
>
> Out-of-order delivery is the fourth classical quality criterion.
> There are folks who argue that it doesn’t matter anymore, and others
> who (more compellingly, to my mind) argue that it’s at least as
> relevant as ever.
>
> Thus, for an actual measurement suite:
>
> - A TCP transaction
>
> …from which we can observe:
>
> - Loss
> - RTT (which I’ll just call “Latency” because that’s what people have
> called it in the past)
> - out-of-order delivery
> - Jitter in the above three, if the transaction continues long enough
>
> …and we can calculate:
>
> - Goodput
>
> In addition to these, I think it’s necessary to also associate a
> traceroute (and, if available and reliable, a reverse-path traceroute)
> in order that it be clear what was measured, and a timestamp, and a
> digital signature over the whole thing, so we can know who’s attesting
> to the measurement.
>
> -Bill
>
>
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