[Starlink] VPN woes, recommendations?

Dave Taht dave.taht at gmail.com
Fri Feb 17 11:34:13 EST 2023


The big winners over starlink have been wireguard and zerotier.

+ https://github.com/lynxthecat/cake-autorate#cake-with-adaptive-bandwidth---autorate
finally hit the big 2.0 mark a few days ago.

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 8:30 AM Adam Thompson via Starlink
<starlink at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> Hi, all.
> We've been trying to develop a plug-and-play L2 VPN over Starlink, using Aruba Hospitality-series Remote APs like their RAP-505H.
> It's not going great, and I'm wondering about several Starlink-specific issues.
>
> First, having multiple devices in serial is generally not a great idea for reliability.  Can we realistically plug our remote AP directly into the dish, still?  (This is using Starlink Business, FWIW.). I know we lose access to the Starlink app, but we also lose a NATing router and an unwanted wifi AP, so that's probably a net zero.  I just don't know what other dangers/problems that topology might cause.
>
> Secondly, we're only able to push about 30Mbps through the (magical Aruba-proprietary GRE+IPsec) tunnel.  The bandwidth-delay equations suggest we should be seeing around 100Mbps, not 30.  (The Aruba devices are rated for ~2Gbps encrypted at the site end, and ~7Gbps at the head end, so presumably that's not the bottleneck.)
>
> So:
> * does anyone have corroborating *or* contradicting evidence of VPN performance over Starlink's particular flavor of Long Fat Pipe, and
> * does anyone have any positive (or negative, I guess!) recommendations for cloud-managed VPN devices that can do at least 100M and magically work from behind double-NAT/CGNAT like we see with Starlink?  Bonus points if it does L2 tunnels or can run a dynamic routing protocol.
> * Other comments or suggestions welcome, too.
>
> Thanks,
> -Adam
>
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