[Starlink] [NNagain] one dish per household is silly.

David Lang david at lang.hm
Fri Nov 10 11:40:26 EST 2023


On Fri, 10 Nov 2023, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:

>> I'm not understanding what you think Starlink is prohibiting here.
>
> Original poster (Dave, not me) provided this text: "There is no
> prohibition against sharing. The closest that document comes to it is:
> "The Standard Service Plan is designed for personal, family, or
> household use.""
>
> If that text is true, I tend to agree with the interpretation that that
> text prohibits sharing the wifi.
>
> It says 'personal, family, household'.  That certainly means to be: not
> my visitors, not my neighbors.

it says 'designed for' not 'limited to'

They list this, but then they also ship a handful of dishes to rural Indian 
villages to be setup in the community center for everyone to use. That would be 
against the rules per your interpretation.

your interpretation would also prohibit businesses from using Starlink and 
allowing customers to use it. Since this is a reasonably common use of Starlink 
and I have not heard ANY stories of SpaceX objecting to it, I don't see any 
evidence to back that they intend for it to be that restricted.

> In the past it was the case like that with non-space home ISPs.  There
> were requests to modify that, business to open.  The response was the
> appearance of business that shared the wifi (independent wifi sharing
> boxes, free for end users), independent of the ISPs.  It led into the
> development of the concept of sharing WiFi among users of same ISP, and
> agreements between ISPs.  The same could happen now with Starlink.

no, the ability to use other people's network connections on the same ISP is not 
something that developed from users sharing wifi. If you have any evidence that 
it was, please correct me.

> However, and I will post separately, there are so many unknowns and so
> much noise about Starlink in general, changing all the time, that it is
> hard to make a definitive oppinion.  Basically one does not know what is
> real until one tries it, and I have not tried it (I am not a starlink
> user but considering it).

I currently pay for 3 starlinks, one that my sister has been using since early 
in the beta period in rural Michigan (on a farm, two miles outside the limits of 
the nearest villiage), one that I use full time at my house (as a redundent 
connection) and one that is configured for mobile use that is used for camping 
and search and rescue work

Ask away and I will respond with my experience.

David Lang


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