<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">thx everyone for coming. I apologize for the chaos. It was the first day of funding for this project...<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It was a great and exciting all up test of beta routing code over a beta ISP over an alpha videoconferencing codebase, over lousy wifi, from the side of a mountain, ov and so great to see you all.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The biggest failure was galene started throwing off errors mid-way through which need to be fixed. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On top of that "all up" test!!!! we were also testing the wifi VI queue, and AF42 dscp passthrough various isps. starlink seems to preserve at least some dscps end to end. Packet captures were taken at various endpoints that should be worth dissecting.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I do fear that large scale use of the VI queue may fail in some locations - including mine - as it is a significantly undertested wifi option. But sch_cake itself performed brilliantly... </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> Bulk Best Effort Video Voice</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> thresh 625Kbit 10Mbit 5Mbit 2500Kbit</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> target 29.1ms 5ms 5ms 7.27ms</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> interval 124ms 100ms 100ms 102ms</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; 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font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> marks 0 1 0 0</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> ack_drop 0 173 0 0</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> sp_flows 0 2 0 0</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> bk_flows 0 1 0 0</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> un_flows 0 0 0 0</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> max_len 0 1514 1392 590</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> quantum 300 305 300 300</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 1, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Rich Brown <<a href="mailto:richb.hanover@gmail.com" class="">richb.hanover@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I'll be there, if nothing else, to lurk! Thanks for the invite.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rich<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 1, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Dave Taht <<a href="mailto:davet@teklibre.net" class="">davet@teklibre.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I note for those attending today that donovan and I are behind a starlink terminal and despite our best efforts, it does tend to glitch occasionally. we would appreciate it if a few people here would drop in early so we can test some things.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 1, 2021, at 8:59 AM, Dave Taht <<a href="mailto:davet@teklibre.net" class="">davet@teklibre.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Sorry for the late notice, as this is a regularly scheduled bufferbloat “working latency” meeting. Today’s focus is on starlink. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div>We have a very full agenda today, but all are invited here to attend to see the latest results from our work and to help us discuss next steps.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We’ve been using the following <a href="http://galene.org/" class="">galene.org</a> based videoconferencing server for our meetings</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://tun.taht.net:8443/group/bufferbloat" class="">https://tun.taht.net:8443/group/bufferbloat</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Use any login you like, with no password, chrome is best</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">TODAY’S AGENDA</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">5 minutes Dave Taht Overview of where we are</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">10 minutes introductions to various volunteers with dishy terminals</div><div class="">10 minutes discussing future plans this week</div><div class="">10 minutes ESR irtt updates</div><div class="">20 minutes open discussion</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(60, 64, 67); color: rgb(60, 64, 67); font-family: Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;" class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">Starlink mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" class="">Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink" class="">https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>