<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">One of my most inspirational books over the years the bufferbloat effort has run was “where wizards stay up late”<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674" class="">https://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(several people featured in that book are on this mailing list)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My hero, in the book, was len kleinrock. His gang of grad students at UCLA took great delight in finding new ways to break and improve on the early arpanet.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Their bottom up efforts drove the (otherwise great) engineers driving the code and top down design at BBN absolutely insane, but we got a lot out of the end result.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Kleinrock" class="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Kleinrock</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Len Kleinrock’s work on queue theory is remarkably accessible to even a college sophomore in business... but seems to be sadly mostly out of print at the moment.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Queueing+Systems+Volume+1%3A+Theory+by+Leonard&i=stripbooks&ref=nb_sb_noss" class="">https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Queueing+Systems+Volume+1%3A+Theory+by+Leonard&i=stripbooks&ref=nb_sb_noss</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">THANKFULLY <a href="http://archive.org" class="">archive.org</a> has been making his books available here for quite some time: </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://archive.org/details/queueingsystems01klei" class="">https://archive.org/details/queueingsystems01klei</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://archive.org/details/queueingsystems02klei/" class="">https://archive.org/details/queueingsystems02klei/</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Queue theory notation is quite weird and hard to grok. However the more CS oriented Volume 2 is the book I relied upon heavily while developing enhancements to fq_codel and its successors.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I can send along my tattered dog-eared copy to whoever might be willing to read it. If you agree to send it back!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><h1 id="title" class="a-text-normal a-spacing-none" style="box-sizing: border-box; padding: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-rendering: optimizeLegibility; font-size: 28px; line-height: 36px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; color: rgb(15, 17, 17); font-family: "Amazon Ember", Arial, sans-serif; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); margin-bottom: 0px !important; text-decoration-line: none !important;"><br class=""></h1><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>