<div dir="auto">Hmm, I’ll see if I can reproduce this, I don’t think I see the same behavior. </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 6:57 AM Dave Taht <<a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com">dave.taht@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">None of these web based tests run long enough to show the degradation<br>
in starlink service that happens after a "speedtest" like interval. I<br>
note that conceptually I don't have much problem with the idea of an<br>
ISP throttling bandwidth for "hogs" after some interval, but I do have<br>
a problem with that cost also being vastly increased delays whilst the<br>
throttling happens. I talked to the attached plot in my recent talk<br>
here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWViGcBlnm0&t=29m45s" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWViGcBlnm0&t=29m45s</a><br>
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When you are dependent on realtime comms, and sharing a link with<br>
potentially many others, keeping queuing delays short no matter the<br>
bandwidth, in a warzone, seems important.<br>
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On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 9:24 AM Nathan Owens <<a href="mailto:nathan@nathan.io" target="_blank">nathan@nathan.io</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Here's mine when I'm not having any issues, pretty decent IMO:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=5d18f5f3-74b8-4cad-b7bf-3f5230fb993a" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=5d18f5f3-74b8-4cad-b7bf-3f5230fb993a</a><br>
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> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 6:32 AM Livingood, Jason <<a href="mailto:Jason_Livingood@comcast.com" target="_blank">Jason_Livingood@comcast.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> When folks experience sub-par video conferencing over Starlink, it'd be great to see working latency stats at that time - such as via the easy test at <a href="https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat</a>.<br>
>><br>
>> On 2/23/22, 09:38, "Starlink on behalf of Dave Taht" <<a href="mailto:starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank">starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net</a> on behalf of <a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com" target="_blank">dave.taht@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>     <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://blog.tomevslin.com/2022/02/starlinks-zoomready-rating-is-going-down.html__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TjZjoTCGYO2gkt9xYrGdFrivrejHIdNjVe0TtEsCuQfDJTyNNy4u3_5CxlN2sj8WTA26WA$" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://blog.tomevslin.com/2022/02/starlinks-zoomready-rating-is-going-down.html__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TjZjoTCGYO2gkt9xYrGdFrivrejHIdNjVe0TtEsCuQfDJTyNNy4u3_5CxlN2sj8WTA26WA$</a><br>
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>>     --<br>
>>     I tried to build a better future, a few times:<br>
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>>     Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC<br>
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I tried to build a better future, a few times:<br>
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