<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /></head><body><div>I love how you think<br /><br /><br /><div dir="ltr" style="mso-line-height-rule:exactly;-webkit-text-size-adjust:100%;font-size:1px;direction:ltr;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" style="width:100%;font-size:1px;"><tr style="font-size:0;"><td align="left" style="vertical-align:top;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" style="font-size:0;"><tr style="font-size:0;"><td align="left" style="padding:13px 0;vertical-align:top;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" style="width:540px;font-size:0;"><tr style="font-size:0;"><td align="left" style="padding:0 0 10px;vertical-align:top;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" style="font-size:0;"><tr style="font-size:0;"><td align="left" style="padding:0 20px;vertical-align:top;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" style="font-size:0;"><tr style="font-size:0;"><td align="left" 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style="font-size:14.67px;"><td style="font-family:'Arial Narrow';"><span style="color:#E4008C;font-weight:700;">W:</span> <a href="http://www.uber.nz/" target="_blank" id="LPlnk689713" style="text-decoration:none;color:#000001;"><strong style="font-weight:400;">www.uber.nz</strong></a></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr style="font-size:0;"><td align="left" style="padding:0;vertical-align:top;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" style="white-space:nowrap;color:#000001;font-size:14.67px;font-family:'Arial Narrow';font-weight:400;font-style:normal;text-align:left;line-height:21.33px;"><tr style="font-size:14.67px;"><td style="font-family:'Arial Narrow';">53 PORT ROAD | PO BOX 5083 | WHANGAREI | NEW ZEALAND</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr style="font-size:0;"><td align="left" style="padding:0;vertical-align:top;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" style="height:25px;font-size:0;"><tr style="font-size:0;"><td style="width:150px;height:25px;background-color:#E4008C;padding:0;"> </td><td style="width:150px;height:25px;background-color:#EF9728;padding:0;"> </td><td style="width:150px;height:25px;background-color:#8BC741;padding:0;"> </td><td style="width:150px;height:25px;background-color:#FEF500;padding:0;"> </td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></div>-----Original Message-----<br />From: Starlink <starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> On Behalf Of Eric via Starlink<br />Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2022 4:55 am<br />To: David Lang <david@lang.hm><br />Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net<br />Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink terminal detector<br /><br />Get a bunch of US$3 ESP8266 devices, set them up in AP mode with spoofed Starlink MACs and BSSIDs, power them with solar cells + old vape-pen batteries and spread them all over the place. There's nothing like causing the other side to shoot $50k missiles at a $15 decoy.<br /><br /><br />------- Original Message -------<br />On Sunday, December 18th, 2022 at 20:49, David Lang via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:<br /><br /><br />> and change the name of the starlink wifi so it doesn't stand out as much.<br />> <br />> David Lang<br />> <br />> On Mon, 19 Dec 2022, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote:<br />> <br />> > From the beginning, the general rule is don't use Starlink WiFi. Or <br />> > hide the router somewhere to reduce RF emissions.<br />> > <br />> > We have developed a set of rules and recommendations about using a <br />> > PoE injector or bypassing the Starlink router.<br />> > Unfortunately, a lot of people ignore safety.<br />> > <br />> > But there are some countermeasures on the way.<br />> > <br />> > On 12/19/22 05:03, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote:<br />> > <br />> > > Actually, there is nothing special.<br />> > > <br />> > > You can capture WiFi beacons and get a BSSID with a good <br />> > > directional antenna. 10 - 15 km it's not a problem.<br />> > > <br />> > > They are filtering Starlink router BSSID to figure out that <br />> > > somewhere there is Starlink.<br />> > > Starlink WiFi router uses Tibro corp. (74:24: prefix).<br />> > > On 12/19/22 04:41, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote:<br />> > > <br />> > > > Starlink detector boasted about... 10km range.<br />> > <br />> > https://www.notebookcheck.net/Starlink-terminal-detection-radar-to-e<br />> > nter-testing-in-Ukraine-as-per-Russian-military-blogger.675439.0.htm<br />> > l<br />> > <br />> > > > I would have figured on starlinks less further front, combined <br />> > > > with non los radios and ptp wifi being viable. Targeting every <br />> > > > wifi transmitter is a low percentage play, and adhoc modes for <br />> > > > directional wifi with synthetic mac's harder to distinguish ...<br />> > > > <br />> > > > _______________________________________________<br />> > > > Starlink mailing list<br />> > > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net<br />> > > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink<br />> <br />> _______________________________________________<br />> Starlink mailing list<br />> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net<br />> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink<br />_______________________________________________<br />Starlink mailing list<br />Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net<br />https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink<br /></div></body></html>