<div dir="auto">I’m near a bunch of gateways in Eastern Washington state, and also a closed cell for new subscribers.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Not sure how much bearing the gateway has on the dish power use, especially with ISLs now. </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 9:27 PM Ulrich Speidel via Starlink <<a href="mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net">starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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<p>Thanks all - really helpful and interesting information.</p>
<p>Also... could you please comment on:</p>
<ul>
<li>How far your observations were from the closest gateway(s)</li>
<li>Whether you consider your cell Starlink virgin territory or
close to subscriber saturation (<a href="https://www.starlink.com/map" target="_blank">https://www.starlink.com/map</a>
might help determine that - if it's light blue, it's likely the
former, if it's "waitlist" blue but surrounded by light blue
areas, or rural and close to a "waitlist blue" area, it's likely
to be the latter.<br>
</li>
</ul>
<div>On 17/02/2023 2:24 pm, Bruce Perens
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 3:08
PM Ulrich Speidel via Starlink <<a href="mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank">starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<ul>
<li>Small inverters usually come with cigarette lighter
cables, and cigarette lighter sockets are typically
fused with 8 or 10 A fuses. That puts maximum safe
power outputs in the 96W to 130-something W range
depending on battery voltage.<br>
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<div>When a larger inverter failed upon installation, I ran
Starlink with the router and rectangular dish for about 2
months, unattended, on a Harbor Freight 250W inverter and 8
GC2 batteries.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Unfortunately this sort of crashed and burned after the
first snow. The battery bank was 8 GC2 in series, and there
was a 48V-12V converter before the Harbor Freight inverter.
I had 4 solar panels flat on top of a freight container,
simply so that they would not be visiblle and the site would
be low profile. These got covered by snow, and I will tilt
them up before the next snow season. The batteries then got
to a low voltage, and the lovely Victron battery protector
failed because I wired it backwards. Then I had a heart
attack and could not visit the site for 3 months.
The battery bank discharged entirely. I finally arrived to
find ice at the top of 4 cells in the battery bank.
Fortunately it was only at the top, and I was able to
recover all of the batteries, rewire the protector, and put
the site back on the air.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>At that point, I switched to DishyPowa, connected via a
hacked Starlink Ethernet Adapter. This allows you to delete
the inverter and the Starlink router, and run the dish
directly off of 48-52V DC. You still need a router, because
Starliink only provides one IPV4 DHCP address to the Dishy,
and you need to do the usual NAT thing on your local net.
But routers that run on 12V directly are easy to find.</div>
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<div> Thanks</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> Bruce</div>
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