<div dir="ltr"><div><b>V1.5</b><br></div><div>~ 305kg</div><div>2.8 x 1.3m bus</div><div>22.68sq m solar panel</div><div>2x Ka parabolics</div><div>4x Phased arrays (likely 3x TX, 1x RX)</div><div>3x ISLs</div><div>~20Gbps (<a href="http://www.satmagazine.com/story.php?number=1026762698">http://www.satmagazine.com/story.php?number=1026762698</a>, Elon comments)<br></div><div><br></div><div><b>V2.0 Mini</b></div><div>< 800kg <br></div><div>4.1 x 2.7m bus</div><div>104.96sq m solar panel</div><div>?? Parabolics, E-Band support<br></div><div>?? Phased Arrays</div><div>3x ISLs? (based on photos)</div><div>~4x capacity increase over v1.5</div><div>~80Gbps<br></div><div><br></div><div><b>V2.0 </b><br></div><div>< 2000kg (~1250kg per Elon)<br></div><div>6.4 x 2.7m bus</div><div>256.94sq m solar panel</div><div>?? Parabolics, E-Band support</div><div>?? Phased Arrays <br></div><div>>= 3 ISLs? <br></div><div>~7-9x capacity increase over V1.5 ("almost an order of magnitude" per Elon)</div><div>Direct-to-Cell?<br></div><div>~140-180Gbps <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 8:37 AM Michael Richardson via Starlink <<a href="mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net">starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Dave Taht <<a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com" target="_blank">dave.taht@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 8:16 AM Michael Richardson via Starlink<br>
> <<a href="mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank">starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Dave Taht via Starlink <<a href="mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank">starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > Everyone wants a water deluge system and flame diverter, but I was<br>
>> > thinking perhaps liquid nitrogen, as a natural byproduct of LOX<br>
>><br>
>> Yeah, but how do you put one on the moon or mars?<br>
>> Lower gravity helps, sure, ...<br>
<br>
> Well, the concrete did not shatter at 1/2 thrust...<br>
<br>
Can the rocket get off the pad at 1/2 thrust? If it could get 4-5m away, it<br>
probably could work.<br>
<br>
>> > Landing and then taking off from the moon or mars look rather<br>
>> > problematic at the moment!<br>
>><br>
>> Do the rockets do the swoop and flip on mars and the moon?<br>
<br>
> SSTO in those cases. Presently.<br>
<br>
SS... To Orbit.<br>
I mean... landing. Does one flip when landing on the moon?<br>
<br>
>> This part I just don't understand.<br>
>> (But then, the entire mars mission is fraught with dozens of missing things,<br>
>> starting with radiation shielding)<br>
<br>
> I was a very lonely asteroid exploration advocate at the launch,<br>
> futilely engaging with the "Mars Firsters" once again, as I have been<br>
> since the 80s.<br>
<br>
I am with you on this.<br>
<br>
Given some mcguffin drive that could get us to another star in some<br>
reasonable time, when we arrive, we'll still need to live in a space colony<br>
for a few dozen years before said planet can be made habitable.<br>
(Even if it was perfect, we still need to clear some land and grow some<br>
crops, and find/build local source of power...)<br>
<br>
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