<div dir="auto">The problem with Galene and in general, with almost everything open-source based per se, is its ANTI user GUI, setup process, documentation…</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Unnecessary barriers to entry for regular people we want to help, right? But instead of doing everything in our powers to tear these barriers down, most of the open source projects IMHO is even taking a big pride in this clunkiness, terrible geeky way of doing stuff, feeling like an “inner circle” of those that are “in the know.”</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">“Only 10 minutes to setup” - means no general public will ever use it en masses! </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It’s shooting our own foot.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If we really want to actually help the people, we should do anything possible in order to improve UX/UI, to give the world (general public) know what we (insert anything open source, like Galene as an alternative to Zoom and the like) actually do and why it’s not only an alternative but why it’s actually better.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It means (in no particular order) better UX/UI, sharing information on social media, easy setup and onboarding, better and more accessible (almost to my grandmother) documentation - </div><div dir="auto">going above and beyond. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Galene should be great - I’m willing to help to make it usable as easily as fucking Zoom. But are Galene guys really willing to make that leap? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br clear="all"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">All the best,<br><br>Frank<br>Frantisek (Frank) Borsik<br><br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik">https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik</a><br>Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 <br>iMessage, mobile: +420775230885<br>Skype: casioa5302ca<br><a href="mailto:frantisek.borsik@gmail.com">frantisek.borsik@gmail.com</a><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 at 8:40 PM, Michael Richardson via Starlink <<a href="mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net">starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><br>
Juliusz Chroboczek via Starlink <<a href="mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank">starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> We're currently using receiver-driven congestion control, which is<br>
> deprecated in WebRTC. The plan is to switch to sender-driven congestion<br>
> control at some point (I'm no big fan, but that's what everyone is<br>
> implementing, and we better be compatible with the rest of the universe).<br>
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...<br>
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> (I could in principle use receiver-driven for the downstream and<br>
> sender-driven for the upstream, thus using libwebrtc's excellent<br>
> controllers in both directions, but it really feels like a hack. I'd<br>
> much rather not negociate receiver-driven at all.)<br>
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If I understand correctly, galene would support p2p media streams?<br>
The web page seems to focus on lecture style.<br>
<br>
It seems to me that if you have multiple outgoing streams, that if there are<br>
problems with any of them, a sender-driven system allows for better use of<br>
what is typically a smaller uplink.<br>
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