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<p>It has an RFC at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9330/">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9330/</a></p>
<p>I read it as a way to rapidly find the available bandwidth without the TCP "sawtooth". The paper cites fc_codel and research based on it.</p>
<p>I suspect <i>My Smarter Colleagues</i> know more (;-))<br>
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<p>--dave<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2024-05-07 08:13, David Fernández via Starlink wrote:<br>
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<div>Is L4S a solution to bufferbloat? I have read that gamers are happy with it.</div>
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<div>Sorry, I read it here, in Spanish:</div>
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<div>Date: Tue, 7 May 2024 06:50:41 -0400</div>
From: Rich Brown <<a href="mailto:richb.hanover@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">richb.hanover@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Eugene Y Chang <<a href="mailto:eugene.chang@ieee.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">eugene.chang@ieee.org</a>><br>
Cc: Sebastian Moeller <<a href="mailto:moeller0@gmx.de" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">moeller0@gmx.de</a>>, Colin_Higbie<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:CHigbie1@Higbie.name"><CHigbie1@Higbie.name></a>, Dave Taht via Starlink<br>
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Subject: Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem<br>
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Hi Gene,<br>
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> On May 6, 2024, at 8:38 PM, Eugene Y Chang <<a href="mailto:eugene.chang@ieee.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">eugene.chang@ieee.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> It seems like you signed off on this challenge. Don’t do that. Help give me the tools to push this to the next level.<br>
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Not at all - I'm definitely signed up for this. But I collected all these points so we can be clear-eyed about the objections that people cite.
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Bufferbloat definitely exists. And there are straightforward technical solutions. And as you say, our challenge is to find a way to build the case for broad adoption of these techniques.
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Rich<br>
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