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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">First question is what was the test destination? From the CPE to a ground station or to something at a peering point or on the internet? I would assume either to ground station or 1 hop beyond (peering point)…
That way we can do apples-to-apples comparisons, so to speak. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">In any case, there is a lot of good 3<sup>rd</sup> party data out there for this. First is RIPE Atlas. I helped get a lot of probes deployed in the US and there are now 78 probes connected globally (roughly
30 would be sufficient to call it statistically significant): <a href="https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/public?sort=-id&toggle=all&page_size=100&search=AS14593&page=1&status=1">
https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/public?sort=-id&toggle=all&page_size=100&search=AS14593&page=1&status=1</a>. So if you know how to pull data from Atlas, it is there for you to analyze… (see
<a href="https://atlas.ripe.net/docs/apis/rest-api-manual/">https://atlas.ripe.net/docs/apis/rest-api-manual/</a> and
<a href="https://atlas.ripe.net/docs/tools-and-code/latencymon.html">https://atlas.ripe.net/docs/tools-and-code/latencymon.html</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">There is also this recent report that used a hardware probe connected over ethernet:
<a href="https://www.netforecast.com/wp-content/uploads/FixedWireless_LEO_CableComparisonReport_NFR5148-1.pdf">
https://www.netforecast.com/wp-content/uploads/FixedWireless_LEO_CableComparisonReport_NFR5148-1.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Another approach similar to accessing RIPE Atlas data would be to get the Cloudflare AIM data from M-Lab – see
<a href="https://www.measurementlab.net/blog/cloudflare-aimscoredata-announcement/">
https://www.measurementlab.net/blog/cloudflare-aimscoredata-announcement/</a>. There was also a recent 3<sup>rd</sup> party report on that (see Figure 1):
<a href="https://www.netforecast.com/wp-content/uploads/NFR5150_NetForecast-ISP-Performance-Report-2024.pdf">
https://www.netforecast.com/wp-content/uploads/NFR5150_NetForecast-ISP-Performance-Report-2024.pdf</a>.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Jason<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Starlink <starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> on behalf of Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 13:13<br>
<b>To: </b>Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Starlink] musk: 28ms median latency on starlink<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#0F1419">Starlink just achieved a new internal median latency record of 28ms yesterday! Great work by the engineering and operations teams.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1797282250574184587__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!Fo8uFKdmFfKjawQrmiHSiyPIfMeLkSmEDbZ7r3K6SUa6razTwsaV2N4vFYYuMFizfHJf-oPpQLsMuW6fdCXIyWT4k75JoVsfRQ$">
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1797282250574184587</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I of course, am very interested in y'all´s external measurements of how well starlink is doing. For me, it is fantastic - 30Mbit uploads nowadays, 0<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">latency on the upload (how?) <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=2a1d139b-87cb-4ba4-a829-e2167801cffe__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!Fo8uFKdmFfKjawQrmiHSiyPIfMeLkSmEDbZ7r3K6SUa6razTwsaV2N4vFYYuMFizfHJf-oPpQLsMuW6fdCXIyWT4k75XAxHvIw$">https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=2a1d139b-87cb-4ba4-a829-e2167801cffe</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also keep hoping that the rest of the ISP industry is now paying attention and deploying stuff like fq_codel and cake and libreqos, but, ah well - I will settle for starlink blowing past a lot of dsl and cable and finding ways to get
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anyone going to the Starship launch on the 6th?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVFWSyMp3xg&t=1098s__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!Fo8uFKdmFfKjawQrmiHSiyPIfMeLkSmEDbZ7r3K6SUa6razTwsaV2N4vFYYuMFizfHJf-oPpQLsMuW6fdCXIyWT4k760_tKaJA$" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVFWSyMp3xg&t=1098s</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos<o:p></o:p></p>
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