<div dir="auto">Starshield isn’t just a version of Starlink for US military. The Starshield sats have remote sensing capabilities too. That gives the US military greater ability to watch developments in realtime with all the Starshield sats in LEO than they could with their more capable, larger, but fewer observation sats. Not to mention higher bandwidth to downlink the observed data interleaved with the coms traffic.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br clear="all"><br clear="all"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Steve Stroh N8GNJ (he / him / his)<div>Editor<div>Zero Retries Newsletter - <a href="https://www.zeroretries.org" target="_blank">https://www.zeroretries.org</a></div><div>Radios are Computers - With Antennas!</div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 08:59 David Lang via Starlink <<a href="mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net">starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">Sascha Meinrath via Starlink wrote:<br>
<br>
> For those who haven't been following the Starshield project (and its <br>
> exponential <br>
> ramp-up)... I fully expect that Musk will focus more on military-industrial <br>
> complex funding than in trying to repurpose FCC or NTIA support -- why fight <br>
> in <br>
> the trenches for hundreds of millions when you can repurpose <br>
> billions/tens-of-billions elsewhere:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://spacenews.com/pentagons-commercial-satellite-internet-services-program-soars-to-13-billion/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://spacenews.com/pentagons-commercial-satellite-internet-services-program-soars-to-13-billion/</a><br>
><br>
> And yes, Starshield is just as scary and prone for abuse as Michael alludes <br>
> to.<br>
<br>
what's scary about it? it's just a smaller copy of Starlink, but run by the <br>
Military so that they don't have to worry about who may work in a commercial <br>
company that operates the system that may not have the countries best interests <br>
at heart.<br>
<br>
while it's expensive, the systems that it's going to replace are even more <br>
expensive, and are FAR slower. (and the fact that it's just normal TCP/IP means <br>
that all the branches and vendors that provide equipment will actually <br>
standardize, they won't be able to push their own propriatary systems/protocols)<br>
<br>
but 13B over several years for SpaceX to build and launch satellites for them is <br>
a small portion of SpaceX revenue. It's expected that the income from Starlink <br>
will be far more than that. So there is no reason to believe that they will <br>
abandon the commercial space and go all military.<br>
<br>
David Lang<br>
<br>
<br>
> --Sascha<br>
><br>
> On 11/23/24 13:29, Michael Richardson via Starlink wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> Ulrich Speidel via Starlink <<a href="mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank">starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > to launch at a faster rate or with fewer sats per launch. It's also <br>
> a bit<br>
>> > more crowded in lower space, as this is where a lot of earth <br>
> observation<br>
>> > spacecraft sit (if you want to take detailed pics of the Earth's <br>
> surface, you<br>
>> > want it to be as close to your camera lens as you can have it), and <br>
> some of<br>
>> > those aren't there for open source public good science.<br>
>> <br>
>> <sincecism alert><br>
>> 1. I'm sure that spaceX could just include cameras for earth observation of <br>
> dissidents.<br>
>> 2. Earth observation will be obsolete according to Project 2025.<br>
>> 3. Elon will own the FCC.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> --<br>
>> Michael Richardson <<a href="mailto:mcr%2BIETF@sandelman.ca" target="_blank">mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca</a>> . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )<br>
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