From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (bobcat.rjmcmahon.com [45.33.58.123]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBFC13CB37; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 16:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.rjmcmahon.com (bobcat.rjmcmahon.com [45.33.58.123]) by bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E53C91EEE8; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 13:57:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 bobcat.rjmcmahon.com E53C91EEE8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rjmcmahon.com; s=bobcat; t=1679086644; bh=c5gzecaK5d/MAJNeBYHXrEJsJdgPkGhlcApnvjC3iPQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=aaQCVKylNIpCK9h326cZqAlGqxUI+jV7TLkJBzw4CcLsEb1RQ2LGwCUxG/elWfvRj 4HZrzmTmzscWh77YqytXQ/XYiQXfuzvBYpGIlgAezVkCzEZ5k/ihvTcjDzcaiyoyoo 27/MdhKSaZXPJWBx5iXCgBUcDhNuYTP8+SEl5WUg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 13:57:24 -0700 From: rjmcmahon To: Bruce Perens Cc: Sebastian Moeller , libreqos , Dave Taht via Starlink , Rpm , bloat In-Reply-To: References: <1672786712.106922180@apps.rackspace.com> <77CCAD19-07E0-4F9E-88C1-D207CF7BF376@cable.comcast.com> <83ffc0dad19e3343e49271889369cefc@rjmcmahon.com> <3CD0B9E6-0B2A-4A70-8F53-ED0822DF77A6@gmx.de> <13DE6E53-665F-4C20-BBE2-70E685421E9D@gmx.de> <22C819FA-DDD7-4B9B-8C09-8008D4273287@gmx.de> <5e7fac51071bdbb20837e72e7eedfc7c@rjmcmahon.com> <3f45d2a0b6e46d7b2775fb801e805f93@rjmcmahon.com> <70F71290-C6CB-4D19-8A88-F0F17C0BDDA2@gmx.de> <5e0cd693c4749d128dbb48d6c1129071@rjmcmahon.com> <2ab2983d-6beb-49cb-8c35-e481cbfdc7a3@Spark> <8F56CCA3-61C4-475F-975D-99D851C6A7CF@gmx.de> <1d6c10c9a692bb3f2869fb1b40fa449a@rjmcmahon.com> Message-ID: <005d1e7e3e1d19bce308436e46a3ec5e@rjmcmahon.com> X-Sender: rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Rpm] [Starlink] On FiWi X-BeenThere: rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: revolutions per minute - a new metric for measuring responsiveness List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 20:57:25 -0000 I'm curious as to why the detectors have to be replaced every 10 years. Regardless, modern sensors could give a thermal map of the entire complex 24x7x365. Fire officials would have a better set of eyes when they showed up as the sensor system & network could provide thermals as a time series. Also, another "killer app" for Boston is digital image correlation & the cameras monitor stresses and strains on historic buildings valued at about $10M each. And that's undervalued because they're really irreplaceable. Similar for some in the Netherladns. Monitoring the groundwater with samples every 4 mos is ok - better to monitor the structure itself 24x7x365. https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/digital-image-correlation https://www.bostongroundwater.org/ Bob On 2023-03-17 13:37, Bruce Perens wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 12:19 PM rjmcmahon via Starlink > wrote:You’ll hardly ever have to > deal with the annoying > >> “chirping” that occurs when a battery-powered smoke detector >> begins to >> go dead, and your entire family will be alerted in the event that a >> fire >> does occur since hardwire smoke detectors can be interconnected. > > Off-topic, but the sensors in these hardwired units expire after 10 > years, and they start beeping. The batteries in modern battery-powered > units with wireless links expire after 10 years, along with the rest > of the unit, and they start beeping. > > There are exceptions, the first-generation Nest was pretty bad.