From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A620C3B29D for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2022 13:04:07 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1655658245; bh=VGtFQ1VWhrpd3qWWXdZRajFJfcDZy0raeBHZ64asPWc=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=DhJRPNKRRrh7ZQjPKX9p/o+dcVfXlg3UehQb/u14zzU6ncB0v4XtS6b5y332fAEPt h0QKx0BaiFxtRuMnIHsUdMalknOW8dnBoaDkYpPg2t6+fDLbvqUNY4MKm7BO640ObU rsm6/Lex+UQ2hC7N1Fznsv7oynEhuNTj/ZitzytU= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from smtpclient.apple ([77.6.66.20]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MSKu0-1o9Xwb2Uzw-00SiXR; Sun, 19 Jun 2022 19:04:05 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.100.31\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 19:04:04 +0200 Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= , Rpm Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <117CA276-11A8-41B7-B610-DD98B4364866@gmx.de> References: To: Brennen Smith X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.100.31) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:t4By1VV9uOPoDDIv5Jz83WJ5LR2aQSdvfZv202+GrdR2aGA4cGC DjjxegU0Q/7+sAY/CZSgk9d1AP3HHDbb18Ep1LUsDgXKlXsvHLhYCoqk7AjJNVil6gLtzCJ 6KWrM37nDr8/nOfNx+XY3ERSpaO2n8P1HgP73CM6BsuL3rfDHsUwwmRJf9nFhnbt2UiVgOq Nj2X+QxaCAksWWR2DLK+w== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:5q+F9Fj9UnM=:J5nlCm3YDbrrr0vHTdfH7Q iyPY/Ezy1paZyXJXQstB3RYvK67JySg3QOgjAbevMtx7+PMhylCDeAiewOZ2rLO7jvFexGUxO uWe5UmzdQWDvJTl0mMYuOgmrFckoZFuODtTVrluNFh0O6lUR9OX/lUAVaQA/sf3X8X5SWau2/ wJhmUOcLNw+cwG5ar2AqYVWtU6nPCpe0PgD5n9e7cPTmvovzrN2XTnybRZrkAOWaK25W8lDnS PPwbRqNWWtrJxWxnfot4FxF7w5zNEAkIrFHxSGV5dnsiBVN2MrAoJCOjJ1MH4788SNu4cG3ww N2ordYIyO3ra4QRDLNH1YiL4HmPvmaLTweAu1gxadlMoNWhefyp8B1w95VTcLEFpORu+wl+Oa GGVNY2oq6kv/6BScA6lIJGo4J4ugi/K6MYnA81dwfHXB7YF3hB/DSlr9pIa2jaeYu23Rag6oY RjNgMSL21wJyevVfvOT+rKAWS65DZ05aR3nTCxfpz7RHtoWMeNo3OKTzCi+Ah3YqKXhm5yg33 grGdKPG91wOaEpEdb531yr/UE2AYWxaAezJYFrrccQ0Cr5IIx+vFzuwz6SxAB6Ew9R/NQuiwh mIkVLfsKi3fnGVjkf4MCandjJ7V1NdiH6y5775JOEiMaDenVgarrsHwcYyNfyZDVxFt8A6Iux aflHTboKQswCjR2zSvywB85TKoaABgIEBOAS/HT/LsuJK2/tYJ4zcvOOGKWPD9dcbtp67NUdb dkdcHswIzbBjOqltqRUjJrLreqLMDTnimRpccVFYBqxAP1mLMIw4oCnGDulDdnsEHqjh0jMKr NStlNwqOVc7T33/KQyu8bL0OQ0yFzsc3WwPSsJMwy0EFJzTETeqSf75fgPvo21SIga7qeA0SM BQmsFxZEP4qvjhyoQH35VQsSXnLm1u0CGBqlZpPIN++SRBhyCGw074gcVHgOacwuVasy6PvRi eDJBIlaUjpSbEHG1c/OhDQI660HS7sy2LT+UC5gustmoBHWSb2g1JlPtA7Td48z7c8AT2zxch dZa5gyuyBSNEZw2qz+ef6e10emdgQLRCE0R6uHgKWp5wIpw36kAjzDWtd5cTC30CaM/RJmA1p Evj3PnzRns3r/Cw7E3TcQXVpe8jUhrP63qE/aIIiWc9RwZD1o39g7bAQw== Subject: Re: [Rpm] an ookla feature request X-BeenThere: rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: revolutions per minute - a new metric for measuring responsiveness List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 17:04:08 -0000 Hi Brennen, > On Jun 17, 2022, at 18:11, Brennen Smith via Rpm = wrote: >=20 > Ahoy Dave et al., >=20 > Great questions!=20 >=20 > 1. We provide the detail on the share page at a high level. We are = super careful on the result pages though to make sure that no = PII/sensitive data is shared so it is sanitized compared to the detailed = result page - here's a Speedtest from Burien, WA as an example: = https://www.speedtest.net/result/i/5158723178 > - We have the platform - iOS. We don't share the OS version for = privacy/security reasons - what if someone shares they are on a = vulnerable OS version? > - Provider - should be visible, assuming our detection works = correctly. While we have some clever overlays, GeoIP is painful.=20 > - Link technology - we do capture the link technology on the test = result, however if someone has a good contact within Apple on the radio = data, I do have a question there.=20 > - Loaded latency - we show the IQM value, but not the min max for now. = I'll ask our Product team why that decision was made.=20 >=20 > - The detailed result page has a lot more detail if you scroll, but we = recommend against sharing screenshots of that as it can contain = sensitive data like precise location and IP addresses.=20 Good thoughts! I guess you are in a decent position to assess = which parts are sensitive and offer a "generate sanitized detail page to = share", where e.g. you remove enough of IP addresses to make it hard to = abuse (heck, just resolve the AS number of the endpoints of the = measurement and report that). >=20 > 2. Agreed - we actually do those types of marketing callouts; here's = an example: = https://www.facebook.com/speedtest/posts/pfbid0J9S2pc3H1ptoSQCT2xJoJBSN9Dy= vV7jvXUXVYJChrTTmtYczEsRuJKc6sAaWCXyUl=20 >=20 > With that said, it's all over the place on how people share the data = in the thread =F0=9F=98=86. >=20 > Cheers,=20 >=20 > Brennen Smith >=20 > VP Technology=20 >=20 > (206) 739-0807 | brennen@ookla.com > linkedin.com/in/brennensmith >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 9:01 AM Dave Taht wrote: > It would be helpful if the detailed results showed the provider, OS, > and link technology. >=20 > Even more helpful if y'all would share within your facebook, twitter, > linked circles a request to folk to download the new ookla speedtest > test and post a screenshot with their detailed results within those > circles. >=20 > This is a test yesterday over verizon 5G on an android, deep in the > los gatos hills. >=20 > --=20 > FQ World Domination pending: = https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >=20 >=20 > This email, its contents and attachments contain information from Ziff = Davis, Inc. and/or its affiliates which may be privileged, confidential = or otherwise protected from disclosure. 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