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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via Cake" <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Cc: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"dave seddon" <dave.seddon.ca@gmail.com>,
	"Frantisek Borsik" <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>,
	codel@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	"Jeremy Austin via Rpm" <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	ryan@rkhtech.org
Subject: [Rpm] Re: [Cake] Re: [Bloat] Re: CAKE-MQ merged to OpenWrt 25.12 today (February 15)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2026 06:34:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260217063410.47b59cd8@phoenix.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ecmjpkpj.fsf@toke.dk>

On Tue, 17 Feb 2026 14:23:52 +0100
Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via Cake <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> dave seddon <dave.seddon.ca@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > === Pre-flight Complete ===
> > Running 6 test points
> >
> > [1/6] qdisc=fq_codel flows=1 tool=iperf2
> >   Switching qdisc to fq_codel...
> >   Throughput: 9.41 Gbps
> > [2/6] qdisc=fq_codel flows=10 tool=iperf2
> >   Throughput: 9.43 Gbps
> > [3/6] qdisc=cake flows=1 tool=iperf2
> >   Switching qdisc to cake...
> >   Throughput: 6.93 Gbps
> > [4/6] qdisc=cake flows=10 tool=iperf2
> >   Throughput: 4.37 Gbps                                 <---- cake
> > [5/6] qdisc=mq-cake flows=1 tool=iperf2
> >   Switching qdisc to mq-cake...
> >   Throughput: 7.17 Gbps
> > [6/6] qdisc=mq-cake flows=10 tool=iperf2
> >   Throughput: 9.44 Gbps                                   <-----
> > mq-cake ... Actually, that's interesting.  higher than fq_codel  
> 
> Are you running fq_codel as the root qdisc? Because in that case you're
> running through the single qdisc lock, which could explain the
> difference. Try running separate fq_codel instances beneath an 'mq'
> qdisc as the root.
> 
> Also, if you're not setting a shaping rate, cake_mq is basically the
> same as just installing an mq qdisc at the root and having separate cake
> instances beneath that. So to test the multi-core shaper algorithm
> you'll need to set a rate ('bandwidth' parameter).
> 

This is what the OpenWrt SQM scripts seem to favor.
I probably need to tune the adaption overhead

# tc qdisc show dev wan
qdisc htb 1: root refcnt 2 r2q 10 default 0x12 direct_packets_stat 0 direct_qlen 1000
qdisc fq_codel 120: parent 1:12 limit 1001p flows 1024 quantum 300 target 5ms interval 100ms memory_limit 4Mb drop_batch 64 
qdisc fq_codel 130: parent 1:13 limit 1001p flows 1024 quantum 300 target 5ms interval 100ms memory_limit 4Mb drop_batch 64 
qdisc fq_codel 110: parent 1:11 limit 1001p flows 1024 quantum 300 target 5ms interval 100ms memory_limit 4Mb drop_batch 64 

It is dumb that in US it is standard to offer 1G down and 10M up!

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-17 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-15 17:42 [Rpm] CAKE-MQ merged to OpenWrt 25.12 today (February 15) Frantisek Borsik
2026-02-17  6:10 ` [Rpm] Re: [Cake] " dave seddon
2026-02-17  6:41   ` [Rpm] Re: [Bloat] " Stephen Hemminger
2026-02-17 13:23   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2026-02-17 14:34     ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2026-02-17 16:32       ` [Rpm] Re: [Cake] Re: [Bloat] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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