From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (bobcat.rjmcmahon.com [45.33.58.123]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5079B3CB37; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 16:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.rjmcmahon.com (bobcat.rjmcmahon.com [45.33.58.123]) by bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5D8051EEE8; Tue, 14 Mar 2023 13:06:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 bobcat.rjmcmahon.com 5D8051EEE8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rjmcmahon.com; s=bobcat; t=1678824409; bh=4sxVZQgwkBQn9C1gP/HU7jLs4tR/vVqtp3QWR384OjE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=hGby8/cJnksz/2kNw4OfTuWT6oNAI9SU91BS7h9aadLNEmb7VMz1au7jY5ipfr3wv m0smKj0L2Gb8bWlLNgjbs18GLRMGy3wCqm7i983Bb6K0yvGJAJZ+Lc54biqtZ+Hdtt jTQHsvsf7mWlOO2Ga0bEqwIJARr4dpflpZ4s2rxY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 13:06:49 -0700 From: rjmcmahon To: Dave Taht Cc: dan , Mike Puchol , libreqos , Dave Taht via Starlink , Rpm , bloat In-Reply-To: References: <3CD0B9E6-0B2A-4A70-8F53-ED0822DF77A6@gmx.de> <13DE6E53-665F-4C20-BBE2-70E685421E9D@gmx.de> <22C819FA-DDD7-4B9B-8C09-8008D4273287@gmx.de> <5e7fac51071bdbb20837e72e7eedfc7c@rjmcmahon.com> <3f45d2a0b6e46d7b2775fb801e805f93@rjmcmahon.com> <70F71290-C6CB-4D19-8A88-F0F17C0BDDA2@gmx.de> <5e0cd693c4749d128dbb48d6c1129071@rjmcmahon.com> <2ab2983d-6beb-49cb-8c35-e481cbfdc7a3@Spark> <89c55d67-86f0-494d-a09e-c9aeebe46dc0@rjmcmahon.com> <70CBB03C-4394-4A93-BBB5-7449DC1AAF9C@gmx.de> <063359bf-5bf3-4688-852c-a7d81e6b80a3@rjmcmahon.com> Message-ID: <35b91d038144ab0347c746163c7c3a60@rjmcmahon.com> X-Sender: rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Rpm] [Bloat] [LibreQoS] [Starlink] On FiWi X-BeenThere: rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: revolutions per minute - a new metric for measuring responsiveness List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 20:06:50 -0000 > I am old fashioned this way, also, but I think most modern users would > not care, any more about this. They are used to pretty much having all > their data exposed to the internet, available via cellphone, and used > to having their security cameras and other personal information, gone, > out there. > > They just want internet. I think people want privacy it's just that those in leadership roles, e.g. Eric Schmidt, rationalized their behaviors with comments like, "Privacy is over. Get used to it." At the same time, Google algorithms were advertising breast implants to women who just learned from their doctors they had breast cancer. Google gleaned this from her information search on her recently diagnosed condition. Life support use cases and privacy have to be added back in as a base feature. It's past time we as a society tolerated this behavior from billionaires who see us as nothing more than subjects to their targeted ads. Bob