From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0501F3B29D for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 03:19:26 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1669796364; bh=bsnOnQ/0PkdGs9l6ZdgTTJSNiVO/sfcyAqhRyCWfFl0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=CLBBi+vHeL1ciq6sT646eRlMKH4vJiv52LlknWI0vPetWldlNxVsdQTSuQWk+DKj+ h/Xw4ZqGMIYHNdeVNaFjTt/DB7NVaL2U7TzxJsTntuTUkaFl+OD2zGQR06zoE51Ao8 v9S/NF8au4nqTCrNgg4nvUDo0UcElvr11bV1UsNzay1gkyAiNyMWYhocTKxQIIqZ6L jJHls3ywO4gthEervy+yo9LbbRl2FNkYcZ57uijXy8+kjYpIoFBPx5/rr18rRy11Ab ZQTrZ9IKvF8JKbMwmDcLTdmtBAF4GSFw2Zs+PAE7bvnzUIzkn0A1vZ+xASk1/XxVkW OfSAOFsTUi67Q== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from smtpclient.apple ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MdNY8-1oREbs0kFc-00ZMzC; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 09:19:24 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.1\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 09:19:23 +0100 Cc: Matt Mathis , Rpm Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <48571005-EAB3-4408-B9C5-AA17C5799863@gmx.de> References: To: =?utf-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.1) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:F91SOOg7glfrmxL+3XAl99hB33pIp8mwbhxZqnLIN7yUUIf+YjJ b8OIm5Gc8SGfcTvk0j8sHU/Y4MWJX8qW1wzuyerV5lGYsqcBJDn2d9xwl9rMQAgXEEGmFOC cFiPqf61n9SBt9QbU1wgBMJ4aDXfIxxu96V0TDl0nA1vLDBeCEIk14vIzf2EweH43/FLpVS P0o/l446orKbeT3kxmtAg== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:N9fSGgDQrBY=;95sS6iSUpdViH1EZ0nuRa+eEt0D 1vpoKM6Ao+iODZIKkmLxaP840Bbcf95B3iTjL+xHZZ+F3Xne8RGlKy+Jab8xaaJA79qdllN+5 uJiw1O39y56VKdQzZxl8XKDCrVI5Oh97ki2Gz3P3zU3Tx3F3hje1z/JdcKTPsYigq4hBTE7tC /X2ZY97d4PLp77jaxlTrTazhoKJTU1mx1IXNXKCcN0Rhcsj/Bdkihs4uWcaBkM31UI6b1EBJn OnFbe1iEgXcwf0dyt5PctrI10A5NKj8l40Ky1G53FMeSkLiNRmYGri9v5WKz0AP1Ol6VvZrrC ZOG7M8w0QBGybVOLKiJ4BkWEVpDiMNe7PMjQjE56p1dqhJqlB+1Q8Kcu2TDNXjT2ifqtrnMss jExPr/7r1GwwNi5M7jFSIMAKRDyRrJlIG+bwTcv8Z4cpx4giaQocQZYwKaUWwS+xB3aIkFZ6d 3XauORZE2mEiXqYOJRI3RV7Ixb81pIQFz4wULg5cabN8h521HN6KPiYoXtGo34lVa2Pu5QUOG O/lm214Zpa1H1FtLBQKY/1DYxXeDdr/epL2mCyMH4mKxCjNLyVOYw5ZU4KROshRAf5GFZpDY7 Zy8JOkDSkGnJZYAkEfssHzujKsLmbqYBGSzdSMp8D2BE9S8p7cxTAqTFy6VefNERWx/7TpvRm xcfflCzTpEccOj43nAzOM6sGX8aiarl35hK59ON9dPYNrj/p8Cc0ONFiMN9L9a8jDYf6neEP8 8MEZhlk8t6G2rVtnuWm4zIyLWN6Babwex7sjwIwyquEJ7sZ+SDsgY2l/ekwO3ilh2cW7x/70z PoKghVqKL1GPC64r//GbwLKs4h+jSxJZZImB1J5myajwaCtvU15qWkrFtydt5cziD0ijUp+4a vw8eqexNJNngKvnU9zQmWeDjJmMPES5UJ5UAEoWXWf41ElwMxasMLLr0ogHh3nrHDew822U+/ O0KCj9XQyP1xDeEW1fAOB5w6TBL6kfCDkdm2nrdowvDS0Wtx Subject: Re: [Rpm] hop count as a heuristic for home networks X-BeenThere: rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: revolutions per minute - a new metric for measuring responsiveness List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 08:19:27 -0000 Hi Dave, > On Nov 30, 2022, at 05:03, Dave Taht via Rpm = wrote: >=20 > has anyone ever considered something as simple as tracking peak > bandwidth by hop count to moderate slow start overshoot? Could you elaborate how that would work/help? Does TCP actually = see the HOP count? Regards Sebastian >=20 > --=20 > This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: > = https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665= 607352320-FXtz > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > Rpm mailing list > Rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/rpm