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From: Paul Spooren <mail@aparcar.org>
To: Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com>
Cc: "Bjørn Mork" <bjorn@mork.no>,
	openwrt-devel <openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org>,
	Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Rpm] Seeking RPM Server package for OpenWrt
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 13:02:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5099D842-68F6-469F-9B54-6E996F669B61@aparcar.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B441EEF6-84A2-4C8B-8D99-02059D55C6A9@gmail.com>



> On 23. Mar 2022, at 12:57, Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Bjørn,
> 
> Thanks for these comments.
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2022, at 8:34 AM, Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> wrote:
>> 
>> There is no need to read anything from a file or device.  You can just
>> serve the same memory buffer in a loop.

Thanks, I’ll check that in case I work on a server for OpenWrt.

> 
> That might satisfy Paul Spooren's concern.
> 
>> I did a quick look at the document and it seems under-specified.  Page
>> after page with blah-blah, but
>> - not defining Content-Type for any of the URLs

I guess it simply don’t matter, just like the content itself? In their demo setups they host either a single `x` (small file) or 4G times `x` (large file).

>> - not defining ciphers or any other TLS options, despite the rather
>> restrictive TLSv1.3 requirment
>> - no config examples for common web servers

https://github.com/network-quality/server

>> - no actual client algorithm

I found this implementation but din’t skim through the full code yet:
https://github.com/network-quality/goresponsiveness/blob/main/networkQuality.go

>> 
>> The last point is obviously the biggest problem.  You can do whatever
>> you want when implementng this, so the results from different clients
>> will not be comparable at all.
>> 
>> IMHO it's better let this soak for a while until they've reversed the
>> blah-blah to content ratio.  This doesn't look like a finished protocol.
> 
> Although I took an editorial pass over an earlier version of the RFC, I'm not in a position to address your questions. 
> 
> Let me propose this process for continuing the conversation. With this response, I'm cc'ing:
> 
> - openwrt-devel
> - RPM mailing list
> - named individuals
> 
> Not everyone is subscribed to both lists, but cc'ing everyone who responds should keep everyone included.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-23 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-23 11:28 Rich Brown
2022-03-23 12:05 ` Paul Spooren
2022-03-23 12:34   ` Bjørn Mork
2022-03-23 12:57     ` Rich Brown
2022-03-23 13:02       ` Paul Spooren [this message]
2022-03-23 18:40     ` Christoph Paasch
2022-03-23 19:23       ` Bjørn Mork
2022-03-24  3:58         ` Will Hawkins
2022-03-24 20:15         ` Christoph Paasch
2022-03-23 12:39   ` Rich Brown

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