From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (bobcat.rjmcmahon.com [45.33.58.123]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32FA63CB41; Sat, 25 Mar 2023 20:04:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.106] (c-69-181-111-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [69.181.111.171]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5EE8E1B326; Sat, 25 Mar 2023 17:04:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 bobcat.rjmcmahon.com 5EE8E1B326 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rjmcmahon.com; s=bobcat; t=1679789056; bh=/Tyh1SScnduSWLWZ2XsrQGcSAiJ4n4vJ0QMjJSK/C5Y=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Date:To:CC:From; b=DXDyCGG3POayt/4knjylZ/kuNx6Ex9XjB+5L5QqbPVLiZFxd5fNy01ec3qtU1Mzgn zzSMm0B/Q/rQCXFDqfDoDwFXNSPx2CMknjj25KqrUYd53A86oMi4cI5bipAWrs147y rfP4d60Z5HUSU1taO+LPqqRYKftgEDMQnF1426Mw= In-Reply-To: References: <1d6c10c9a692bb3f2869fb1b40fa449a@rjmcmahon.com> <2885829.1679221616@dyas> <20230321001019.GA4531@sunf68.rd.bbc.co.uk> <4295238B-FA57-49B6-B57B-78FFB2603B90@gmx.de> <8301258b8fffa18bd14279bff043dd03@rjmcmahon.com> <43bcbc338aecb44a1bef49489ab6f9c8@rjmcmahon.com> <60e70b637df76234639780ab08f25d82@rjmcmahon.com> <9edd011a1a6615470b34e0837896a15f@rjmcmahon.com> <0551d5fe-e1be-48c8-be36-c4800a12e5de@rjmcmahon.com> X-Referenced-Uid: 0001012b567702d5 Thread-Topic: Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] On fiber as critical infrastructure w/Comcast chat User-Agent: Android X-Is-Generated-Message-Id: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----I1S1YCULSE5UMLRMAY10G8JF9E254F" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Robert McMahon Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2023 17:04:16 -0700 To: David Lang CC: dan ,Rpm , Frantisek Borsik , Bruce Perens , libreqos , Dave Taht via Starlink , bloat Message-ID: <8f7d92bd-3b35-4726-b733-978b322713ad@rjmcmahon.com> Subject: Re: [Rpm] [Bloat] [Starlink] On fiber as critical infrastructure w/Comcast chat X-BeenThere: rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: revolutions per minute - a new metric for measuring responsiveness List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2023 00:04:17 -0000 ------I1S1YCULSE5UMLRMAY10G8JF9E254F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The primary cost is the optics=2E That's why they're p in sfp and pay go B= ob On Mar 25, 2023, 4:35 PM, at 4:35 PM, David Lang wrot= e: >On Sat, 25 Mar 2023, Robert McMahon via Bloat wrote: > >> The fiber has= basically infinite capacity=2E > >in theory, but once you start aggregatin= g it and having to pay for >equipment >that can handle the rates, your 'in= finite capaicty' starts to run out >really >fast=2E > >David Lang > >-----= ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >____= ___________________________________________ >Bloat mailing list >Bloat@list= s=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet >https://lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet/listinfo/bloat ------I1S1YCULSE5UMLRMAY10G8JF9E254F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The primary = cost is the optics=2E That's why they're p in sfp and pay go

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Bob
On Mar 25, 2023, at= 4:35 PM, David Lang <david@lang=2Ehm> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2023, Robert McMahon =
via Bloat wrote:

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he fiber has basically infinite capacity=2E

in theory, =
but once you start aggregating it and having to pay for equipment 
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can handle the rates, your 'infinite capaicty' starts to run out really fast=2E

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