From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rn-mailsvcp-ppex-lapp15.apple.com (rn-mailsvcp-ppex-lapp15.rno.apple.com [17.179.253.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48D153CB35 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:34:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pps.filterd (rn-mailsvcp-ppex-lapp15.rno.apple.com [127.0.0.1]) by rn-mailsvcp-ppex-lapp15.rno.apple.com (8.16.1.2/8.16.1.2) with SMTP id 20BHJJ5T012198; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:34:13 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apple.com; h=content-type : mime-version : subject : from : in-reply-to : date : cc : content-transfer-encoding : message-id : references : to; s=20180706; bh=pAIwOsMayvf30GejegEtQD/88O5YGL4E9p0LlMBAgJA=; b=vJRz7Q5IcPg56ZBJqf95hfR/zGh1MeDWhI5ZKGUl37FD1M30FQri9VZuxuhmcBog17ql mkd5o37db/7/s3kAFQNCT4ZZkZju6GdTFplR3UqMx/JmHvkT0YRJKy5M9N3X8ALq7vfc 1+lQM1QnOwH9wLb2ilOOnaziXdkIOg3myaMkG1ClIpjkIKGDGxTd0JwfXVyh3V2BB4d4 ZXlvt4/iaNvbvGQJ8QUlORPQoMf5e5f5sbGltgFSBY8vLT58fmE/SN9afP1+ezqmHeVW VBIWh3zPqmbBg0v+fH1XZhOi0wrx+SnxDx0qdO/pMsAiaw9t/+QwQ/cNO3GYWlh7WV9B AQ== Received: from rn-mailsvcp-mta-lapp04.rno.apple.com (rn-mailsvcp-mta-lapp04.rno.apple.com [10.225.203.152]) by rn-mailsvcp-ppex-lapp15.rno.apple.com with ESMTP id 3df92feqgx-3 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:34:13 -0800 Received: from rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp01.rno.apple.com (rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp01.rno.apple.com [17.179.253.14]) by rn-mailsvcp-mta-lapp04.rno.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.1.0.12.20210903 64bit (built Sep 3 2021)) with ESMTPS id <0R5K00HTL3H1TOA0@rn-mailsvcp-mta-lapp04.rno.apple.com>; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from process_milters-daemon.rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp01.rno.apple.com by rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp01.rno.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.1.0.12.20210903 64bit (built Sep 3 2021)) id <0R5K00W003BTCR00@rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp01.rno.apple.com>; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:34:13 -0800 (PST) X-Va-A: X-Va-T-CD: 32d6bca4cf45698a16b9e6590d58e58e X-Va-E-CD: 7e10122b31a5773a24a340ee6ceff635 X-Va-R-CD: 7c33a72c21946fde6616e13b2d980e2a X-Va-CD: 0 X-Va-ID: 3eda39f9-f024-4175-b3bb-5ead53108438 X-V-A: X-V-T-CD: 32d6bca4cf45698a16b9e6590d58e58e X-V-E-CD: 7e10122b31a5773a24a340ee6ceff635 X-V-R-CD: 7c33a72c21946fde6616e13b2d980e2a X-V-CD: 0 X-V-ID: 1ae17613-41b1-476d-86c1-7f1c68bb35c6 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.425, 18.0.790 definitions=2022-01-11_04:2022-01-11, 2022-01-11 signatures=0 Received: from smtpclient.apple ([17.192.155.238]) by rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp01.rno.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.1.0.12.20210903 64bit (built Sep 3 2021)) with ESMTPSA id <0R5K001LZ3H0E820@rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp01.rno.apple.com>; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:34:13 -0800 (PST) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 15.0 \(3693.40.0.1.81\)) From: Christoph Paasch In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:34:12 -0800 Cc: Rpm Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: References: To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3693.40.0.1.81) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.425, 18.0.790 definitions=2022-01-11_04:2022-01-11, 2022-01-11 signatures=0 Subject: Re: [Rpm] apm metric - annoyance per minute X-BeenThere: rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: revolutions per minute - a new metric for measuring responsiveness List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 17:34:16 -0000 Hi Dave! > On Jan 9, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Dave Taht via Rpm = wrote: >=20 > or gpm - glitch per minute >=20 > defined as a latency excursion of more than 20ms. I kinda find that interesting :) Can you give an example? Would it count = the number of times we miss a "20ms-deadline"? So, if the RTT is 100ms, = GPM would be 5 ? Christoph >=20 > ? >=20 >=20 > --=20 > I tried to build a better future, a few times: > https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org >=20 > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > Rpm mailing list > Rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/rpm