From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ed1-x534.google.com (mail-ed1-x534.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::534]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 509003B29D; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ed1-x534.google.com with SMTP id g20so6782356edw.6; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 08:18:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JQ9YArOaZAdZnOM09wo+yApHdcUtDmCV1mn2DVPiQCE=; b=Tl3mt2IlA8pUTMMnzWSQf3ihAD0V7PUkjoDLHVnhJ7D4gFRfTnuOMq4Ny/jZblLGq6 0BfOuNy+2NgU/GZBi9uhegriXyk4MK2WSXjLen+R4hDjaGSId+p9/948icC0l9VBUiJu x4yNK7TIpVUpnGtWnxjBoijnyv9KdxV6YQyyH3AO+Z3zeG4/7qeDROe4hKVKCyV+kKa4 Dz8LvepB07prdpUH1XNeMxMNp+CGyWCqgssZiP8r7xFvTd7oGQzstrhy3D4KMliHo9S5 /vpApSWVjwOT+75fkML2A/w7Rz5VrmTzUxvhaRO3wRD/e80CpYPNgPv4UhU4OjH/Idqg 5F2w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JQ9YArOaZAdZnOM09wo+yApHdcUtDmCV1mn2DVPiQCE=; b=bqQouWjhqWxK2dRsB2wvEED3arqGsi3r6B7OMBHtDZ3ZpmXf7CqwPRXF7g3Z8/rbX8 RiAkHHmfeo7qbTe2ntAFfdWcGhFiTo4A/PwxLU0qtUni9hQt+I0k7H2/0vfQNDmjoxAk +l9WjZbk77OBUiXVKbVcLkZl2L99D+tTiZeQDnGL/iWrkyZ2U2m12X8vTbEvKvbvf6zK +DIq3HZ/fY9R+qmFjVJuJuzJptA6DvQWME0p4z92wOK0VYDCBX05+U851n8H7sdRu3EO V5fjgR9QRK/95w243S84S9a9cmwzXdpEOaV9Psa2aISUQp57wgOWa+NT/6d5h5hEqkoC 1oYA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530fYFI4+RrODtdNK3tdjX3Hxl9vCSkxJ7uYioUR2SatLhQRvqj8 NXEsatsqslrCzMOwFOrSb3rh285G1sxQl9Peo4HYUfZC/IpLiQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzTwXxJj8Au+tu4rSG4rfQLUXzN0wHcTj1d2zON0XhvbM+HDXWkRpV7GS2kOFl3eRZINmlogbUArqg4uXg58SQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:5106:b0:419:45cd:7ab0 with SMTP id m6-20020a056402510600b0041945cd7ab0mr3605608edd.116.1649949537939; Thu, 14 Apr 2022 08:18:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 08:18:45 -0700 Message-ID: To: bloat , Rpm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Rpm] broadband cost analysis X-BeenThere: rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: revolutions per minute - a new metric for measuring responsiveness List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:18:59 -0000 pretty good: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5f5282b71117310d16e654d3/t/6256eb4ef= bb468024f396969/1649863506445/Toward+Effective+Administration+of+State+and+= Local+Fixed+Broadband+Programs+-+04.12.22+Final+Report.pdf My lowball cost estimate for "better, recycled routers" would be somewhere in the 20 dollar range for the 25/3mbit segment, which depending on how you do the math per above is somewhere between 10 and 65 million people. It would be cool to have good bufferbloat statistics for the 25/3mbit portion of the population. --=20 I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC