From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ed1-x535.google.com (mail-ed1-x535.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::535]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A8803CB38 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2022 13:13:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ed1-x535.google.com with SMTP id w25so35259152edt.7 for ; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 10:13:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KZuPtbWsON9gx4tMMmdbHsFCKLsETRxbkKhPDUStD6c=; b=oJt20P6KMeYuEU40eLFiomLY1FfYPma5rUaJNKI+uka6sUEEjDvHPGe52EraloaI63 BXciJ1TRs8jwl3OTUG99oO1xCrRLR6tHWUPqkoYOLHu3ytYjehs1VA6/E2jcgW24bBBr BSaamduKzTx255KBUx/vTrFx4uHqQ0r9Kwv3uybwrPQoDw3nuoPxCQOAFvKgwLrUaxtj iFs8XFo8k+3opnipxtgjBSbY7lrh34spKLFATPv0z5IvABGni6ekcIL6yWfRcvSmMHL/ rK+JToyn90Ryg4fTG5hXQyKLmhIfDiXTz+l0ECo+OjWLYFF/W/l3kKFAEkGQRclZWHJj zMMw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KZuPtbWsON9gx4tMMmdbHsFCKLsETRxbkKhPDUStD6c=; b=UzY/hfEjnpR7sgNtsyS8Pkk9+a7SD7OT+0kAg/sVPYPTBsxoispbofsXEJXMA8JtqF hK6sc3xV9WxFQL86mFcjQy1yqY0iwUuN3Vl3l7oGWKIhBWy+/6um7J/xIvHBxZqap5qY A+ms1Lru7HFhxa0JaNwW6/ywVELau8Yd+RIN5BAdHzUEFhFQAXPBxBacYOrE5Lsc0u9F ArUEgA+kTVU4RglocQuhSLXvDu+zINXhu+Ym/WOq87AHuE2xShmFiPSvdpYRIvjINOlW KljGKazv/P+ISfA3KkQOF9ZaZLuWzIYZKnkLvzkNHZTZyl2J/xocrej2c5BHULd2M8UF bPOw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530HQq6QLQvw+Vj9oTSJWfYYBBeoAa2sJEAaYOV9/IeBLd0jGwsG 3u3hGEQx7xUkB/MomUx2yq/CDVwdTZtSNVzFFtE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyvGUFgMC9RKu1cfxH/ZjC/ToyUmGyAcSR0KIfLSv3H+c0BqPQWJOYKILIXZrLBQRHY9L8Ja8APv0gRNdv8Lgw= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:cdc5:: with SMTP id h5mr26616691edw.293.1643739190353; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 10:13:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 10:12:56 -0800 Message-ID: To: Satadal Sengupta Cc: Jennifer Rexford , Joon Kim , Rpm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Rpm] [Network-quality-workshop] the princeton paper and the long tail above 90% X-BeenThere: rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: revolutions per minute - a new metric for measuring responsiveness List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2022 18:13:11 -0000 how y'all been doing on the data from princeton? On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 11:13 AM Satadal Sengupta wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > Thanks for reaching out and for your insights! We'll do this real soon an= d let you know what we find. > > Regards, > Sata > > On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 7:01 PM Dave Taht wrote: >> >> I just wanted to reach out to the folk that presented a paper from >> Princeton, which I cannot remember >> the title of (?)... >> >> ... in the hope that they could look over their data again vs a vs >> dropbox (instead of youtube), and to learn what they see above the >> 90th percentile. As I'd pointed out in the discussion, the youtube >> traffic was typically sender side limited, dropbox's is not, and they >> both use BBR, which is the best-in-class congestion control we have >> right now. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Fixing Starlink's Latencies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dc9gLo6Xrw= gw >> >> Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >> >> -- >> Network-quality-workshop mailing list >> Network-quality-workshop@iab.org >> https://www.iab.org/mailman/listinfo/network-quality-workshop --=20 I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC