From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x329.google.com (mail-wm1-x329.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::329]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 398843B2A4 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x329.google.com with SMTP id i128-20020a1c3b86000000b003a2ce31b4f8so5727966wma.1 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 14:56:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=L9oeSIt3l/ifU7wqHhp8jiJu383UycecymKXpMhjdFg=; b=UGsBJZqUTxPjxz25c8vEPYi3lECU+wtAg/F9HCwj8UcX2bWEIgc2JoxccVvfLs5LU2 4CLoWsfcB2wCyqa9qw9z3vN7B8sxhhtw6Np75XohzBmW/HWS5GqfL7shrdw1BxeG355E 2RYR8DrfPHswd0mKLQ2Hg2lMlGYJcJD+kou7PjcNn07z/C6EBMj9JQXoNmQ/bs1jMRHH pQbNaQ8VcASkS0nyjXhI29F1Jr00temYjRQAsCgvlyVEow22Xf1FkgNVgbC0b8Q5gold hJvzsTlGHzr8robfhk0lmDWY+kI9qmP3LgjUo21kUVN7BGf3m616wJGfZBg+fLe4LHKB aOvw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L9oeSIt3l/ifU7wqHhp8jiJu383UycecymKXpMhjdFg=; b=gVvfDAFaCLV3CnOCTBf/M6vGH+t8egBfSbHOW+2wMUBBmwsDhKQILxwqTmxvTfhChj H8dVZpNIXr+PrQKOLYZ+Ti/Sbw8L0GqD1YrlnGVoVqTD3xjJYgNjHZkUdwYV+bQyyu37 ZPBbmZi0CpITXCL3VgzW25oknT9yajbjxYmOoZ+MDoWFayQ8YAycfZ3UCOy0mxri58DY LZRqQn8xVESWp+uDbggqQFa8G4zsLHBd9qbjrorKruZlBGJIfXuuIdR0ONsCVPH5mKje D1bW6661r6PMNNsQf9Oidv8CUaPFXKIepntdUav3rhDVhy1EoQOulBJRFZ9CRAHZViNL m4YQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora8X2JIm7aMG/lEUHSfC/WzhFAs+m+mKfNlxXB3cLx7trjbu1m05 s4mr2kwG23PHmhcmz2ytBhJNmknC8Wf8kNlzjEcbwouQyBs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1sQsu32IFyJCLE1I1oNPvzFG4wv94+nOGlvkChfKdgQn2SJT04T8xkzHxJHOW7ejK1H1Dfl9TK5El/ivdp28S8= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:348d:b0:3a2:d019:2366 with SMTP id a13-20020a05600c348d00b003a2d0192366mr423656wmq.187.1657576608233; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 14:56:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <165757486192.5123.15413561746946302005@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <165757486192.5123.15413561746946302005@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 14:56:36 -0700 Message-ID: To: Rpm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Rpm] Fwd: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness-01.txt X-BeenThere: rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: revolutions per minute - a new metric for measuring responsiveness List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 21:56:50 -0000 ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Date: Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 2:27 PM Subject: [ippm] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness-01.txt To: Cc: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Measurement WG of the IETF. Title : Responsiveness under Working Conditions Authors : Christoph Paasch Randall Meyer Stuart Cheshire Omer Shapira Matt Mathis Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness-01.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2022-07-11 Abstract: For many years, a lack of responsiveness, variously called lag, latency, or bufferbloat, has been recognized as an unfortunate, but common, symptom in today's networks. Even after a decade of work on standardizing technical solutions, it remains a common problem for the end users. Everyone "knows" that it is "normal" for a video conference to have problems when somebody else at home is watching a 4K movie or uploading photos from their phone. However, there is no technical reason for this to be the case. In fact, various queue management solutions (fq_codel, cake, PIE) have solved the problem. Our networks remain unresponsive, not from a lack of technical solutions, but rather a lack of awareness of the problem and its solutions. We believe that creating a tool whose measurement matches people's everyday experience will create the necessary awareness, and result in a demand for products that solve the problem. This document specifies the "RPM Test" for measuring responsiveness. It uses common protocols and mechanisms to measure user experience specifically when the network is under working conditions. The measurement is expressed as "Round-trips Per Minute" (RPM) and should be included with throughput (up and down) and idle latency as critical indicators of network quality. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness/ There is also an htmlized version available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ippm-responsiveness-01 Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-dra= fts _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm --=20 FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_code= l/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC