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* [Rpm] goresponsiveness test over wifi over a cellphone tether
@ 2022-03-22 20:44 Dave Taht
  2022-03-22 20:55 ` Jonathan Foulkes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2022-03-22 20:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rpm

Not surprisingly:

./goresponsiveness --config mensura.cdn-apple.com --port 443 --path
/api/v1/gm/config
03-22-2022 20:43:08 UTC Go Responsiveness to mensura.cdn-apple.com:443...
Error: Saturation could not be completed in time and no provisional
rates could be accessed. Test failed.


-- 
I tried to build a better future, a few times:
https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org

Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC

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* Re: [Rpm] goresponsiveness test over wifi over a cellphone tether
  2022-03-22 20:44 [Rpm] goresponsiveness test over wifi over a cellphone tether Dave Taht
@ 2022-03-22 20:55 ` Jonathan Foulkes
  2022-03-22 21:59   ` JAMES R CUTLER
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Foulkes @ 2022-03-22 20:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht; +Cc: Rpm

Something is going on the Internet right now, I tried repeating tests that worked at noon, and they now fail even on a wired connection.

go run networkQuality.go   --config mensura.cdn-apple.com --port 443 --path /api/v1/gm/config -timeout 30 
Error: Could not connect to configuration host mensura.cdn-apple.com:443: Get "https://mensura.cdn-apple.com:443/api/v1/gm/config": dial tcp 163.171.239.65:443: i/o timeout

I did manage to get one MacOS networkQaulity run, and it was in the ballpark, seems the new test is more sensitive?

- Jonathan


> On Mar 22, 2022, at 4:44 PM, Dave Taht via Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> Not surprisingly:
> 
> ./goresponsiveness --config mensura.cdn-apple.com --port 443 --path
> /api/v1/gm/config
> 03-22-2022 20:43:08 UTC Go Responsiveness to mensura.cdn-apple.com:443...
> Error: Saturation could not be completed in time and no provisional
> rates could be accessed. Test failed.
> 
> 
> -- 
> I tried to build a better future, a few times:
> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
> 
> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> _______________________________________________
> Rpm mailing list
> Rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/rpm


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* Re: [Rpm] goresponsiveness test over wifi over a cellphone tether
  2022-03-22 20:55 ` Jonathan Foulkes
@ 2022-03-22 21:59   ` JAMES R CUTLER
  2022-03-22 22:14     ` Dave Taht
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: JAMES R CUTLER @ 2022-03-22 21:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jonathan Foulkes; +Cc: Dave Taht, Rpm

> On Mar 22, 2022, at 4:55 PM, Jonathan Foulkes via Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> Something is going on the Internet right now, I tried repeating tests that worked at noon, and they now fail even on a wired connection.
> 
> go run networkQuality.go   --config mensura.cdn-apple.com --port 443 --path /api/v1/gm/config -timeout 30 
> Error: Could not connect to configuration host mensura.cdn-apple.com:443: Get "https://mensura.cdn-apple.com:443/api/v1/gm/config": dial tcp 163.171.239.65:443: i/o timeout
> 
> I did manage to get one MacOS networkQaulity run, and it was in the ballpark, seems the new test is more sensitive?
> 
> - Jonathan
> 
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2022, at 4:44 PM, Dave Taht via Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Not surprisingly:
>> 
>> ./goresponsiveness --config mensura.cdn-apple.com --port 443 --path
>> /api/v1/gm/config
>> 03-22-2022 20:43:08 UTC Go Responsiveness to mensura.cdn-apple.com:443...
>> Error: Saturation could not be completed in time and no provisional
>> rates could be accessed. Test failed.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> I tried to build a better future, a few times:
>> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
>> 
>> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
>> _______________________________________________
>> Rpm mailing list
>> Rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/rpm
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Rpm mailing list
> Rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/rpm


https://www.apple.com/support/systemstatus/, Last updated today, 5:57 PM EDT has lots of RED and YELLOW, including Weather - Issue.

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* Re: [Rpm] goresponsiveness test over wifi over a cellphone tether
  2022-03-22 21:59   ` JAMES R CUTLER
@ 2022-03-22 22:14     ` Dave Taht
  2022-03-23  0:03       ` Will Hawkins
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2022-03-22 22:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: JAMES R CUTLER; +Cc: Jonathan Foulkes, Rpm

 ./goresponsiveness --config mensura.cdn-apple.com --port 443 --path
/api/v1/gm/config
03-22-2022 22:09:03 UTC Go Responsiveness to mensura.cdn-apple.com:443...
Download:  27.968 Mbps (  3.496 MBps), using 16 parallel connections.
Upload:     3.531 Mbps (  0.441 MBps), using 12 parallel connections.
Total RTTs measured: 3
RPM:    19

At my cheap hotel, where I actually get fairly decent
videoconferencing with well over 30% packet loss.

./goresponsiveness --config mensura.cdn-apple.com --port 443 --path
/api/v1/gm/config
03-22-2022 22:10:13 UTC Go Responsiveness to mensura.cdn-apple.com:443...
Download:  12.843 Mbps (  1.605 MBps), using 12 parallel connections.
Upload:    17.844 Mbps (  2.230 MBps), using 24 parallel connections.
Total RTTs measured: 5
RPM:    36

I'm going to argue that starting this many connections is a bit much.
Both these results are from an arm base notebook.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 4:59 PM JAMES R CUTLER <james.cutler@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 22, 2022, at 4:55 PM, Jonathan Foulkes via Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >
> > Something is going on the Internet right now, I tried repeating tests that worked at noon, and they now fail even on a wired connection.
> >
> > go run networkQuality.go   --config mensura.cdn-apple.com --port 443 --path /api/v1/gm/config -timeout 30
> > Error: Could not connect to configuration host mensura.cdn-apple.com:443: Get "https://mensura.cdn-apple.com:443/api/v1/gm/config": dial tcp 163.171.239.65:443: i/o timeout
> >
> > I did manage to get one MacOS networkQaulity run, and it was in the ballpark, seems the new test is more sensitive?
> >
> > - Jonathan
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 22, 2022, at 4:44 PM, Dave Taht via Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not surprisingly:
> >>
> >> ./goresponsiveness --config mensura.cdn-apple.com --port 443 --path
> >> /api/v1/gm/config
> >> 03-22-2022 20:43:08 UTC Go Responsiveness to mensura.cdn-apple.com:443...
> >> Error: Saturation could not be completed in time and no provisional
> >> rates could be accessed. Test failed.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> I tried to build a better future, a few times:
> >> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
> >>
> >> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Rpm mailing list
> >> Rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net
> >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/rpm
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rpm mailing list
> > Rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/rpm
>
>
> https://www.apple.com/support/systemstatus/, Last updated today, 5:57 PM EDT has lots of RED and YELLOW, including Weather - Issue.



-- 
I tried to build a better future, a few times:
https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org

Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC

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* Re: [Rpm] goresponsiveness test over wifi over a cellphone tether
  2022-03-22 22:14     ` Dave Taht
@ 2022-03-23  0:03       ` Will Hawkins
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Will Hawkins @ 2022-03-23  0:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht; +Cc: JAMES R CUTLER, Rpm

Thank you all for using the tool -- I am really honored that you would
take it seriously enough to take it for a test drive. Please keep the
comments coming. As I said in the presentation yesterday, we are still
calibrating the RPM calculation with networkQuality. That said, we
usually "match" the number of parallel connections of the
networkQuality test.

I will do my 100% best to keep up with the chain of emails and answer
all questions/comments ASAP. I apologize in advance if I fall behind
and I don't mean to imply that I am not committed to building this
tool and working with the community. I tend to get overwhelmed with
${DAY_JOB} sometimes.

Thank you again!
Will

On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 6:14 PM Dave Taht via Rpm
<rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>  ./goresponsiveness --config mensura.cdn-apple.com --port 443 --path
> /api/v1/gm/config
> 03-22-2022 22:09:03 UTC Go Responsiveness to mensura.cdn-apple.com:443...
> Download:  27.968 Mbps (  3.496 MBps), using 16 parallel connections.
> Upload:     3.531 Mbps (  0.441 MBps), using 12 parallel connections.
> Total RTTs measured: 3
> RPM:    19
>
> At my cheap hotel, where I actually get fairly decent
> videoconferencing with well over 30% packet loss.
>
> ./goresponsiveness --config mensura.cdn-apple.com --port 443 --path
> /api/v1/gm/config
> 03-22-2022 22:10:13 UTC Go Responsiveness to mensura.cdn-apple.com:443...
> Download:  12.843 Mbps (  1.605 MBps), using 12 parallel connections.
> Upload:    17.844 Mbps (  2.230 MBps), using 24 parallel connections.
> Total RTTs measured: 5
> RPM:    36
>
> I'm going to argue that starting this many connections is a bit much.
> Both these results are from an arm base notebook.
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 4:59 PM JAMES R CUTLER <james.cutler@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mar 22, 2022, at 4:55 PM, Jonathan Foulkes via Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Something is going on the Internet right now, I tried repeating tests that worked at noon, and they now fail even on a wired connection.
> > >
> > > go run networkQuality.go   --config mensura.cdn-apple.com --port 443 --path /api/v1/gm/config -timeout 30
> > > Error: Could not connect to configuration host mensura.cdn-apple.com:443: Get "https://mensura.cdn-apple.com:443/api/v1/gm/config": dial tcp 163.171.239.65:443: i/o timeout
> > >
> > > I did manage to get one MacOS networkQaulity run, and it was in the ballpark, seems the new test is more sensitive?
> > >
> > > - Jonathan
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Mar 22, 2022, at 4:44 PM, Dave Taht via Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Not surprisingly:
> > >>
> > >> ./goresponsiveness --config mensura.cdn-apple.com --port 443 --path
> > >> /api/v1/gm/config
> > >> 03-22-2022 20:43:08 UTC Go Responsiveness to mensura.cdn-apple.com:443...
> > >> Error: Saturation could not be completed in time and no provisional
> > >> rates could be accessed. Test failed.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> I tried to build a better future, a few times:
> > >> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
> > >>
> > >> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Rpm mailing list
> > >> Rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/rpm
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Rpm mailing list
> > > Rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/rpm
> >
> >
> > https://www.apple.com/support/systemstatus/, Last updated today, 5:57 PM EDT has lots of RED and YELLOW, including Weather - Issue.
>
>
>
> --
> I tried to build a better future, a few times:
> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
>
> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> _______________________________________________
> Rpm mailing list
> Rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/rpm

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