From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pj1-x1030.google.com (mail-pj1-x1030.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E26D93B29E; Sun, 17 Sep 2023 15:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pj1-x1030.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-27499bb759cso1522685a91.3; Sun, 17 Sep 2023 12:12:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1694977942; x=1695582742; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=NZt8qRFMSQub0juzTzZJZmpkNqsHl09G6JJrd8w2Hr8=; b=Lbb2goPmn0ttkIoJdODEeF555x3vc1r0X4HkCc3R8uVKj5Sb4Mwk8lUb3Kn6i5zVFk CfheWWJGwUQaUQg6rxSTv78QFOAUFMTkZEv2vAxcAkOM3qOpt3MwoPsVhV9+aQJNydyd uWMDUef0jyfv0DoqO06Zu4RbBADBjAPOvI19kxOfTLtrnWpbT9lAbMeAnqQRPWYJnmVa 61FXXgNdNwSzjClmQb+J0rzvXnaNvhL2jVKjaBBJTHr5iZMlLt4MqJa/oXdZKQdOHbD+ BGZ95fFYapea/BfiiI+4nxXqcgQQvQnlfofS+4hZQax1EJHmhm4KFJBCMTX8LAOK2Ikj IMGQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1694977942; x=1695582742; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=NZt8qRFMSQub0juzTzZJZmpkNqsHl09G6JJrd8w2Hr8=; b=eSd80MNRDpcW/vVD9MmyV8dieE6Ljwzv79gsf2TIDa2//0bFn5QdYQKb5kkZTnlzzC f5Xw6SnHB+x/vWQ7ueus/kL0SaJqWfdqyxUoDG302p0t2k4q5DWOpJ6XfEOZuv3lIsKl w0MP259VP0yuG7TxSsidIdJ5PML6YJMDFGdQ9EeBihsJKXpLeJ64Q8F527dx+T3tf0uZ vjMt62ly/wYx0xz2KKjp6KuWjb5W2B4vE/cS7q6J6UduybHdVWi1z0flsEckFd/lpkrv kUbcMG3Q2aIeNNHwCdoSp63+wFAXKhAwA+DVMbU2IJDrM8o/jmJx5dtpLjUgzYCh//pk OBIg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyCgbS/oV1c8yW9b3zNgOZYWxzUdGJJhmZhsCE2luvJm2BFUPbl xOSBxhupSpy/YIeK4eHreauyUqsCmPvwlLmhO6X7GZgKM68= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHs7QD9mwpv2YOSvc2QYMKVe1tCEYKMvYNhOIfBMOFDKwDnkmmAeVjnW4V9x27DayBK7FwVZVUtMLsjJFnwm2s= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:c917:b0:273:4672:98b5 with SMTP id v23-20020a17090ac91700b00273467298b5mr4918585pjt.42.1694977942074; Sun, 17 Sep 2023 12:12:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 12:12:11 -0700 Message-ID: To: bloat , Rpm , Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000023bb7f060592ce21" Subject: [Rpm] retransmit cost over cellular X-BeenThere: rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: revolutions per minute - a new metric for measuring responsiveness List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 19:12:24 -0000 --00000000000023bb7f060592ce21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thoughtful piece here: https://nickvsnetworking.com/mobile-ipv6-tax/ I wonder how much cell data we are billed for is useless retransmits and timeouts, due to bloat, or just overhead traffic, as this fella points out. --=20 Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos --00000000000023bb7f060592ce21 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thoughtful piece here:

https://nickvsnetworking.co= m/mobile-ipv6-tax/

I wonder how much cell data we ar= e billed for is useless retransmits and timeouts, due to bloat, or just ove= rhead traffic, as this fella points out.

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