From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x330.google.com (mail-wm1-x330.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::330]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE7783B29D; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 21:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wm1-x330.google.com with SMTP id o5-20020a05600c510500b003d21f02fbaaso476872wms.4; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 18:01:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=zNIHfZHrEGy5NtOsFD0gQt6R0tc0TyDNWU9Rm2MvNig=; b=NrtaZBmevyxlrYbuG7x1sKvIctFzdEef3kD80PGpO/UtBV+bA1mSvWyS6/bI8vd6qJ IOXbBeh96rMMam2lVy4ldwc5ZstM9lW/HHCDT/baHvsJ6OkkjBQ/khopImVnRBWuNZMs Ddp9976TpRNO+yQYqQ6GSYL8wYtZgNFGh0xnUSyQPf1kHq336e60ZKgTI02+ePn5et9X xzZmcLdxI/HdWsJYLewP3I/jZseupXowLhgep5OxUmwtTJ8dktUqk2KfS6soZbTsw7Iz QEsruipW7Sk5wi/oCDtAzaEKqlvkIGjPBmVHfYVqqjdKs//iu9ysLtiTYFCiFtVR5OPH w+Vw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=zNIHfZHrEGy5NtOsFD0gQt6R0tc0TyDNWU9Rm2MvNig=; b=WQB03+a1Vxg6ncjLfBUQbii3Wd5yLTVNlw1tSSuY2CJFS9wOG+kWFYM8XoWcaFpo8E z0ghxjx3SGnLiPh0raVtjwoMYC4iT7EH1qZnyzZMlzYCeg06nIdeKbLTm8StLY3d7JuH fusNVQ6tGFfACxdI3wuy+YEk72EDy9ZhrDcXLncfDRMWUTPMpwkuvuGkjA4FIOJn6fZb 8sHZnsxipTxcz3q9CQvmLnRQirvbvybyZRXMY3oygWAJn43UJ0bwWujrKKjeGyTwlFbv W8JbsimHOI5W4wfKemQIJ2yUoD1hFoJ4H6xrvb9xS3//rv0K01eCmGo55QBivuvwYsBH 497w== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kpIgmVRFLooagipnzZzfVsplhtOgAFmAa5D5DiPoroH5rYhQ9of 6xAMwkWRtkGBJQB6Ah+uG0T0ZZaNf6sE04g3TUgm4Cg+8Vo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXu2sSgGJyOCKc8Xp7aMGN83UAqMZ25NKw/l9XqkDURcPm4NqzMsTRZ4uAKx7NSCMAdz8i/YAAl7JmkqqSI8ET4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:2f17:b0:3cf:a6e8:b59b with SMTP id r23-20020a05600c2f1700b003cfa6e8b59bmr24787wmn.128.1671588068083; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 18:01:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 18:00:52 -0800 Message-ID: To: Rpm , bloat , Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Rpm] good latency metrics from jim roskind X-BeenThere: rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: revolutions per minute - a new metric for measuring responsiveness List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 02:01:10 -0000 Good talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_uaaCiyJCFA What he had to say about fenceposts above really resonated with me. We do 'round here, keep aiming for less and less latency, but a lot of folk have settled on what is good enough by their lights. The p50 and p90 animation was brilliant AND hilarious... Very high energy talk on QUIC's design decisions including a great slide on the packet pacing experiment he did back in 2012 or 2013 or so, also: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7011133658166157312/ --=20 This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-69813666656= 07352320-FXtz Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC