From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x32f.google.com (mail-wm1-x32f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 035103B29D for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 23:04:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wm1-x32f.google.com with SMTP id ay14-20020a05600c1e0e00b003cf6ab34b61so489615wmb.2 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 20:04:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=I5PNLdX47N7k3w3TrnmBSQJgl6lHzVFy4AA5n1NusHY=; b=l/3oMGTBHeFyTIIzjj8PEgOEvt9o6698VLAJSmZD9ahXmTE+K0t5M6h/LxSoQkRTKU QKhLH3iK/mwVrIJtV+UIrNsE+BXVbqVsgwRVWjS3/RxayyStR1qBqrb8uVq+evzCcFeb IhwPxqX9S6fbxnfMp0WcCF9H0opnZxTAZCFTgTmJCHVPTEcyvql4jsi521wDe9Y9+GR2 hyqmiQSiNglfMIBqxwPgSZ8QBpluMpVo+rVkvjUQ7cm+6O8L49ocQ2vdNDwTT5oM8I08 w5Wo+Q7/UP2kVvLZ2rzmUP/aVQu7dIgMxmyVRkeg1HG4V5breZq9n546RKNQC7n2TxUP 08aQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=I5PNLdX47N7k3w3TrnmBSQJgl6lHzVFy4AA5n1NusHY=; b=Mw2HYxjN8lPICjHy2d6siJ12NqC98d5tVPreV84GEZ6PbnJpNTyNatxau5SmA2RkaY 2+2e3yIChHqm8/g/iTAGHXLElc5e/cp8/3uYa6lB5NfB7x/B6mMNQmsvPGPZcIjU3vdl zyJWRoHBkBKSioWroLBo9ESUQzpvJAnCvrSXHWjhZtRmBj7xV1G/NUjrcJq/tTHEe+81 DzvSzvjqtnhVm3f2jSUYMzbzW7xVMKnQn++VvHVLND+nyfI4lobeEhWZGVBuDi8bVn0k nmUpAGUmClOA54X/evtPMIHpLDrAjSdJ8AZ401sQRDkmb1r6ps5ODhU0P+ClR/MoUJYo gSlA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pkme5ADLmLYZOiZ/BVSQOaNY9eLlJbCAaWOaSrCh+uFy36CJpyP CfI4ZxdprNm/oorNjuA2RtWPrff5TTIFsJwDPABWm6z9GZ8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf48i2XQwWupj8iNzFTdNxZ1k6JJAQ8iz4OEnutyopEmdxiS3DV3v4snrBVuDmi5lOufnR3DUIYcF1qPPz3YDpk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:3543:b0:3cf:a6e8:b59b with SMTP id i3-20020a05600c354300b003cfa6e8b59bmr46682535wmq.128.1669781052755; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 20:04:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2022 20:03:59 -0800 Message-ID: To: Matt Mathis , Rpm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Rpm] hop count as a heuristic for home networks X-BeenThere: rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: revolutions per minute - a new metric for measuring responsiveness List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 04:04:14 -0000 has anyone ever considered something as simple as tracking peak bandwidth by hop count to moderate slow start overshoot? --=20 This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-69813666656= 07352320-FXtz Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC