From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x229.google.com (mail-lj1-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EE5D3B29D for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2022 02:31:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x229.google.com with SMTP id u20so1927011ljk.0 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2022 23:31:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=obs-cr.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2OkVjlkKFHkjwX2RtqD+IpcmcPiKZRyDOiWnwuHIY60=; b=Orbb2WCnT2qkonsUj7MFYH5W1UdesWfykhTPC/iTcA5KtZV388Wx283Dr6BObBEsfE 6cI1IJuHnaHHdYtU98TgCspghZN7oqYf1LkLvLfBnzUsRxlPs5/9EZWRQeCnk19EJjDi ilmMiqGrbFO2uAZ127bskfChJShPxlAa+T5AbXVwf2zf8dNBNxUdfE4BWw+tAG6X489u 1R91fdCtSonpdTpMsOcgTOJ3EOdg9L2G5yg46Cu2aULYYGBoZ1K1KQxAUXckw6SFDv1f wgKONH4WQ4mmjCBN+ra6J+H/rwRWZ1yEzUjeXOTcWVhR7mQbSpSyfRHiXcGQZSgEq0fk CnvA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2OkVjlkKFHkjwX2RtqD+IpcmcPiKZRyDOiWnwuHIY60=; b=6FvlrTjxdGjJjgBYfZ4B4o0s3pSohwIvL139Rf8MCTreX9oz+VUuKzcEOj57lq7jEF 8YhHAthLrXX5mtFBOCBhCEQ5vuyrYqP3M6d2iklm+C0ubj6mFImBvIDdQqdFOirsqcfJ ZcEcRTgnoDEcA6yUCirTx6+YWmP4L60XlS1lmurV8/GKr8rKBr6lPWx1wau0ORWEZiWI Lsn5q1g0JmauMWLN/NXZ52OxyhmDREle5iMhkDN9pS58o3vJREJOQjsTa+ytMLrWXaZI bXddCr+N/SJeA7lBjEyo0+iWtXu+0mbFehF+oYUoXph+hVsGvOJrVsL8+TV65HixlJkm xQpg== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora8tWGHnP8lVs4/tFgQYGSEwMUqV8QllBJq/pQSXLcK2BzMM6qUL SONcbYIjmWSvUGtxtG2At8jLbjSI8lpZ27DRvg/dPA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1sfx5+RZo0pXjNuOfviCU7ihKHjVFNeAGDBUSwGa+PgqMBln8aGVhRn5X4jmcgfa1qP3e8C6JDVdPGli1uIlho= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9695:0:b0:25d:65f9:fb95 with SMTP id q21-20020a2e9695000000b0025d65f9fb95mr2217724lji.302.1658644289858; Sat, 23 Jul 2022 23:31:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6C83DEDA-B3A0-42A2-BAE9-F224968B4802@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <6C83DEDA-B3A0-42A2-BAE9-F224968B4802@gmx.de> From: Will Hawkins Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2022 02:31:18 -0400 Message-ID: To: Sebastian Moeller Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= , Rpm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Rpm] latest goresponsiveness test over starlink X-BeenThere: rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: revolutions per minute - a new metric for measuring responsiveness List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2022 06:31:31 -0000 Great suggestions. I will continue to play with the UI. It looks like these conditions for timeout might be changing in future iterations of the spec, so I will keep my eye on how it progresses. Thanks again for the suggestions! Will PS: How do you like Starlink overall? On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 11:38 PM Sebastian Moeller wrote: > > Hi Will, > > Regarding my 'fat pipe' link, given that the current draft seems to recom= mend the 20 seconds, how about simply starting with that value, but on fail= ure to achieve saturation do one of the following: > a) give a more detailed error message instructing the user to use the sat= timeout option, maybe by printing the used command with '-sattimeout 60' or= so added, so that simple copy and paste might allow the user to try again. > b) do not stop the code on this failure, but ask the user interactively w= hether to try again with a larger sattimeout value. > > Whether that will help in the starlink case I can only guess... > > Regards > Sebastian > > On 23 July 2022 23:19:28 CEST, Will Hawkins wrote: >> >> I am sorry that I am late to this thread. I would love to work >> together to see if there are some things that we could do to make the >> client more robust when someone uses it from "constrained" (to put it >> nicely) environments! >> >> Will >> >> On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 4:26 PM Sebastian Moeller via Rpm >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> maybe try: >>> >>> time ./networkQuality --config mensura.cdn-apple.com --port 443 --path= /api/v1/gm/config -extended-stats -sattimeout 60 >>> >>> to extend the maximal time to achieve saturation to a minute. I notice= than of a fat path (1000/1000 Mbps) 20 seconds are not enough to achieve s= aturation, and maybe things take while on starlink as well? >>> >>> Regards >>> Sebastian >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 22, 2022, at 21:00, Dave Taht via Rpm wrote: >>>> >>>> First attempt timed out. Second attempt... >>>> >>>> ./networkQuality --config mensura.cdn-apple.com --port 443 --path >>>> /api/v1/gm/config >>>> 07-22-2022 18:58:53 UTC Go Responsiveness to mensura.cdn-apple.com:44= 3... >>>> Download: 34.351 Mbps ( 4.294 MBps), using 20 parallel connections. >>>> Upload: 3.653 Mbps ( 0.457 MBps), using 20 parallel connections. >>>> RPM: 438 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_f= q_codel/ >>>> Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >>>> ________________________________ >>>> Rpm mailing list >>>> Rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net >>>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/rpm >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Rpm mailing list >>> Rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/rpm > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.