From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x130.google.com (mail-lf1-x130.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EEF13B29E; Sun, 17 Jul 2022 03:31:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x130.google.com with SMTP id o7so14530075lfq.9; Sun, 17 Jul 2022 00:31:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=CZiHfIqclZMBW2Mzl0cmSjux0OUFhUC6ONAdE8F1Ars=; b=OClv26LGgMwXof+5LysQmjy1SydvzKihqiAkMQ0QQtQM+mCr1wOJnl4VZjeWZHlAhv gaM5J3BOTXKNJGjT7ctxQIyAsOp2cXK7V8by7QgQN/C5WnrCDLuNGv5ml9jl9s4pGbDT k/0v2Kuj92PVOF2yigaxXffJ2tnjxI4o9Bg0zhEu4C4sYwhDLE9z6i9EyQr/pRMjGVl3 ock0cSj02tZvXHGfkDH3bD2c4kxi1Tcs2UiKvPb4Hl8jVbs5NS5Wn4QSm5QtBb7Q2tl8 9NZXxbcSTiKf7uZDcW1bJR8BgXC/SM5XaAqHtn0WbGEgftodc7fPWQg05FGCGragVmq9 fP1w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=CZiHfIqclZMBW2Mzl0cmSjux0OUFhUC6ONAdE8F1Ars=; b=GXdNkPobL2YFw4CDodW5SntrOJvqianOyPL5yy9tKh7LlHxsdBh01uQViq1Njz2nJK 9FCvYCY+6sfI9vggFK51ScScB/hgUVIzudhoAeFP9s1slaXk63kMALaZJbi4lT79nQvc KKxoeDYHV0ZWyMA+caCySRXndle4l5zUpV1c+KNFZ0fPLDDQWGQe7l2TdClXACvy92Q9 xMwef21K+j2pcMVQ8vynFLHFxFUBSXzqzZ/569MBJdCpY/FCHR0WLvpDZSL+4YXLc2Vq Y24nQ2rwORGc/hTHT7XsP3oJn20bb7qcBeibkuf7vSjEKGSIwqbjpud+jgXf6UJjBUro YRdg== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora/ugQ3BcE9VV37wdHms3LNNzoSf39n5GHsqcf1Wt6dta10xBYTg 2J+XnKH47mJMILv0eRr+afBOiWYztKrXJ6dwt5o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1sBddeKNraRFFnVQNqd2T3d4lkywSUJm/rfDRkZwi+/Jcf9UT8PcHz9yzQaBGrsUsAgsT2dwtAMZanOVu7clbQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3f98:b0:489:e50c:9aff with SMTP id x24-20020a0565123f9800b00489e50c9affmr11962955lfa.334.1658043087134; Sun, 17 Jul 2022 00:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 895490483151 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 17 Jul 2022 00:31:26 -0700 From: Frantisek Borsik In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2022 00:31:26 -0700 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht , Jeremy Austin , Jeremy Austin via Rpm Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003b225105e3fb3d99" Subject: Re: [Rpm] [Starlink] It's still the latency, starlink! X-BeenThere: rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: revolutions per minute - a new metric for measuring responsiveness List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2022 07:31:29 -0000 --0000000000003b225105e3fb3d99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But when I see all those people from the saying that this new FCC shenanigans are =E2=80=9Cgood for the people=E2=80=9D=E2=80=A6I wanna die. Say what You want about Ajit Pai, but he was not that demented like this Biden=E2=80=99s lady. *Sent on the move.* *F.* *https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik * *+421919416714* <%2B421919416714> (Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp) *+420775230885 *(iMessage) *Skype: *casioa5302ca On 17 July 2022 at 8:17:04 AM, Jeremy Austin via Rpm ( rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net) wrote: > We will keep preaching it. > > This also feeds into the frustration around the manipulation of the US > (FCC) federal definition of broadband. I care little about a 1000/500 > connection with 2000 ms of latency under load; I=E2=80=99d much rather ha= ve a > 100/20 that never exceeds 100 ms! > > > > Jeremy > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 8:23 PM Dave Taht via Starlink < > starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > >> there's three "lovely" new speedtest results here, showing nearly 5sec >> of uplink latency under load. >> >> If only more folk would realize it's not the bandwidth, but the working >> latency. >> >> >> https://www.pcmag.com/news/starlinks-massive-growth-results-in-congestio= n-slow-speeds-for-some-users >> >> -- >> FQ World Domination pending: >> https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ >> Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >> > -- > [image: Company logo] > *Jeremy Austin* > Sr. Product Manager > *Preseem | Aterlo Networks* > Book a call: https://app.hubspot.com/meetings/jeremy548 > 1-833-773-7336 ext 718 *|* 1-907-803-5422 > jeremy@aterlo.com > www.preseem.com > [image: facebook icon] [image: twitter icon] [image: linkedin icon] [ima= ge: > youtube icon] > [image: Ask us about our new features today!] > > _______________________________________________ > Rpm mailing list > Rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/rpm > --0000000000003b225105e3fb3d99 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But when I see all those people from the saying th= at this new FCC shenanigans are =E2=80=9Cgood for the people=E2=80=9D=E2=80= =A6I wanna die.

Say what You want about Ajit Pai, but he= was not that demented like this Biden=E2=80=99s lady.

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On 17 July 2022 at 8:1= 7:04 AM, Jeremy Austin via Rpm (rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net) wrote:

We will keep preaching it.=C2=A0

This also feeds into the frustration around the manipulation of the US (FCC) federal definition of broadband. I care little about a 1000/500 connection with 2000 ms of latency under load; I=E2=80=99d much rather have a 100/20 that never exceeds 100 ms!

<sigh>

Jeremy

On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 8:23 PM Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
there's three "lovely" new speedtest results here, showing ne= arly 5sec
of uplink latency under load.

If only more folk would realize it's not the bandwidth, but the working latency.

= https://www.pcmag.com/news/starlinks-massive-growth-results-in-congestion-s= low-speeds-for-some-users

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