* [Rpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness-00.txt
@ 2021-08-13 17:15 Christoph Paasch
2021-08-13 18:28 ` Christoph Paasch
0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Paasch @ 2021-08-13 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rpm; +Cc: Omer Shapira, Randall Meyer, Stuart Cheshire
Hello RPM-list,
please see below our IETF-draft submission that specifies the methodology
used to measure "Responsiveness under working conditions" the way it is
currently implemented in the upcoming iOS and macOS releases.
We believe that this document could be a good starting point to create a
formal specification for a methodology to quantify bufferbloat from the
end-user's perspective (meaning, the way end-users most commonly experience
it).
Feedback is very welcome!
Thanks,
Christoph & co-authors
----- Forwarded message from internet-drafts@ietf.org -----
From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
To: Christoph Paasch <cpaasch@apple.com>, Omer Shapira <oesh@apple.com>, Randall Meyer <rrm@apple.com>, Stuart Cheshire <cheshire@apple.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 09:43:40 -0700
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness-00.txt
A new version of I-D, draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Christoph Paasch and posted to the
IETF repository.
Name: draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness
Revision: 00
Title: Responsiveness under Working Conditions
Document date: 2021-08-13
Group: Individual Submission
Pages: 12
URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness-00.txt
Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness/
Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness
Abstract:
Bufferbloat has been a long-standing problem on the Internet with
more than a decade of work on standardizing technical solutions,
implementations and testing. However, to this date, bufferbloat is
still a very common problem for the end-users. Everyone "knows" that
it is "normal" for a video conference to have problems when somebody
else on the same home-network is watching a 4K movie.
The reason for this problem is not the lack of technical solutions,
but rather a lack of awareness of the problem-space, and a lack of
tooling to accurately measure the problem. We believe that exposing
the problem of bufferbloat to the end-user by measuring the end-
users' experience at a high level will help to create the necessary
awareness.
This document is a first attempt at specifying a measurement
methodology to evaluate bufferbloat the way common users are
experiencing it today, using today's most frequently used protocols
and mechanisms to accurately measure the user-experience. We also
provide a way to express the bufferbloat as a measure of "Round-trips
per minute" (RPM) to have a more intuitive way for the users to
understand the notion of bufferbloat.
The IETF Secretariat
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* Re: [Rpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness-00.txt
2021-08-13 17:15 [Rpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness-00.txt Christoph Paasch
@ 2021-08-13 18:28 ` Christoph Paasch
0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Paasch @ 2021-08-13 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rpm, Omer Shapira
++ the other co-authors that somehow didn't make it on the CC-list :-/
On 08/13/21 - 10:15, Christoph Paasch via Rpm wrote:
> Hello RPM-list,
>
> please see below our IETF-draft submission that specifies the methodology
> used to measure "Responsiveness under working conditions" the way it is
> currently implemented in the upcoming iOS and macOS releases.
>
> We believe that this document could be a good starting point to create a
> formal specification for a methodology to quantify bufferbloat from the
> end-user's perspective (meaning, the way end-users most commonly experience
> it).
>
>
> Feedback is very welcome!
>
> Thanks,
> Christoph & co-authors
>
>
> ----- Forwarded message from internet-drafts@ietf.org -----
>
> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> To: Christoph Paasch <cpaasch@apple.com>, Omer Shapira <oesh@apple.com>, Randall Meyer <rrm@apple.com>, Stuart Cheshire <cheshire@apple.com>
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 09:43:40 -0700
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness-00.txt
>
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Christoph Paasch and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name: draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness
> Revision: 00
> Title: Responsiveness under Working Conditions
> Document date: 2021-08-13
> Group: Individual Submission
> Pages: 12
> URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness-00.txt
> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness/
> Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness
>
>
> Abstract:
> Bufferbloat has been a long-standing problem on the Internet with
> more than a decade of work on standardizing technical solutions,
> implementations and testing. However, to this date, bufferbloat is
> still a very common problem for the end-users. Everyone "knows" that
> it is "normal" for a video conference to have problems when somebody
> else on the same home-network is watching a 4K movie.
>
> The reason for this problem is not the lack of technical solutions,
> but rather a lack of awareness of the problem-space, and a lack of
> tooling to accurately measure the problem. We believe that exposing
> the problem of bufferbloat to the end-user by measuring the end-
> users' experience at a high level will help to create the necessary
> awareness.
>
> This document is a first attempt at specifying a measurement
> methodology to evaluate bufferbloat the way common users are
> experiencing it today, using today's most frequently used protocols
> and mechanisms to accurately measure the user-experience. We also
> provide a way to express the bufferbloat as a measure of "Round-trips
> per minute" (RPM) to have a more intuitive way for the users to
> understand the notion of bufferbloat.
>
>
>
>
> The IETF Secretariat
>
>
>
> ----- End forwarded message -----
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