From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ma1-aaemail-dr-lapp02.apple.com (ma1-aaemail-dr-lapp02.apple.com [17.171.2.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 820123B29E for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 16:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pps.filterd (ma1-aaemail-dr-lapp02.apple.com [127.0.0.1]) by ma1-aaemail-dr-lapp02.apple.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 19EKHjQa015000; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 13:27:09 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apple.com; h=mime-version : content-transfer-encoding : content-type : date : from : to : cc : subject : message-id : references : in-reply-to; s=20180706; bh=TvJOBlVVTp928bY5CYndBRTYXv02Mr6Kwk5H0gQu+TI=; b=BwWzL7e/vj7L0leew2R7WIIbRszz6+dWUgz46eDgjWnsO9ITE9VbCL2nbSaiAijUaJLP 6aP6fMrWMpAzCZDtLCuxscToEqQ4qYkf+owH7YMGEMew7KfPW9J+oTv07XLGJiNe1klM SnQloVw3ACECngohyYSGODLZ9AroPtw7JRjW9cfyWdKuN9uyHYPHsLSUwIHGJQ2RBdoS UV8X/51GDgx34uishrrnvLF8oAYHnr4wvb2PIje0y9mCeCO7X+wPxCPMJdS97IfberU7 pHEADvJkI4eWZxz5LKFjomRK8Wc51U4ixnR+KiB97nffh25bABGrPaWxy7sl78VUSPQw YA== Received: from rn-mailsvcp-mta-lapp02.rno.apple.com (rn-mailsvcp-mta-lapp02.rno.apple.com [10.225.203.150]) by ma1-aaemail-dr-lapp02.apple.com with ESMTP id 3bn033h684-2 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 14 Oct 2021 13:27:09 -0700 Received: from rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp01.rno.apple.com (rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp01.rno.apple.com [17.179.253.14]) by rn-mailsvcp-mta-lapp02.rno.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.1.0.12.20210903 64bit (built Sep 3 2021)) with ESMTPS id <0R0Z003O5I59ZS00@rn-mailsvcp-mta-lapp02.rno.apple.com>; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 13:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from process_milters-daemon.rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp01.rno.apple.com by rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp01.rno.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.1.0.12.20210903 64bit (built Sep 3 2021)) id <0R0Z00W00HN74U00@rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp01.rno.apple.com>; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 13:27:09 -0700 (PDT) X-V-A: X-V-T-CD: 206c6d8179461ac5cfede4250501cb29 X-V-E-CD: e5fcb99dfaa3d438d88c8d566ac15812 X-V-R-CD: 1f7d9b5a682a61669d687c9c4835ed84 X-V-CD: 0 X-V-ID: b725d4b1-e338-4167-9135-0c0af977bf50 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.425, 18.0.790 definitions=2021-10-14_07:2021-10-14, 2021-10-14 signatures=0 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-disposition: inline Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Received: from localhost ([17.149.227.69]) by rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp01.rno.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.1.0.12.20210903 64bit (built Sep 3 2021)) with ESMTPSA id <0R0Z00NHQI559K30@rn-mailsvcp-mmp-lapp01.rno.apple.com>; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 13:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 13:27:05 -0700 From: Christoph Paasch To: Rich Brown Cc: Randall Meyer , rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net Message-id: References: <6B7910A6-9157-40DD-8C50-FE42AEDB7797@apple.com> <8F8B59C1-9FB7-4B3E-9C15-14180721FEA8@gmail.com> In-reply-to: <8F8B59C1-9FB7-4B3E-9C15-14180721FEA8@gmail.com> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.425, 18.0.790 definitions=2021-10-14_07:2021-10-14, 2021-10-14 signatures=0 Subject: Re: [Rpm] Does RPM measurement *require* a valid SSL certificate X-BeenThere: rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: revolutions per minute - a new metric for measuring responsiveness List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 20:27:10 -0000 On 10/13/21 - 17:57, Rich Brown via Rpm wrote: > > > On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:45 PM, Randall Meyer wrote: > > > > We could add a “—insecure/-k” switch as a feature enhancement to the CLI. > > Or maybe just ignore the certificate. More options is worse, if you have to implement/explain/justify them. Ignoring is not a good option. Otherwise, traffic could be intercepted and one could cheat its RPM-value by having a local termination-point on its AP. Christoph > > In the context of an RPM test, where there would be (max) dozens of SSL calculations per second, I suspect that the difference between a self-signed certificate and a "real one" would be negligible. > > Thanks. > > Rich > _______________________________________________ > Rpm mailing list > Rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/rpm