From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
To: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
Cc: David Lang <david@lang.hm>, Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
dan <dandenson@gmail.com>, Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
libreqos <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Rpm] [Starlink] [Bloat] [LibreQoS] net neutrality back in the news
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 08:31:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZRZvMLtKhkd6-16m@Space.Net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E0D21168-2016-4A96-A56A-199EF8BE054A@gmx.de>
Hi,
On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 08:24:13AM +0200, Sebastian Moeller via Starlink wrote:
> [SM] In the EU we have this as a continuous lobbying effort by big incumbent ISPs (a move to have the large content providers (CAPs) shoulder their "fair" share of the cost of modernizing the networks*), why this flys with at least some EU politicians is that the intended payees of this scheme are all located outside the EU and hence will have little support by the EU citizenry... (The latter is IMHO not fully undeserved either, the days of "do no evil" are long behind us and big tech often forgets that we are all in this together, but I digress). In the EU one of these days such an effort might actually succeed, as much as I dislike this.
And then the local incumbent uses that line of argument to arm-twist
all the smaller ISPs to pay them for traffic into their network...
(and calling up fees well above normal market rates for "transit").
Gert Doering
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-29 6:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-27 18:21 [Rpm] " Dave Taht
2023-09-28 3:33 ` rjmcmahon
2023-09-28 6:06 ` Dave Taht
2023-10-01 17:08 ` [Rpm] [Starlink] " Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-05 19:22 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-28 6:25 ` [Rpm] " Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 6:36 ` [Rpm] [Starlink] " Gert Doering
2023-09-28 7:14 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 7:33 ` Gert Doering
2023-09-28 7:38 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 16:38 ` [Rpm] " Dave Taht
2023-09-28 16:52 ` [Rpm] [Starlink] " Livingood, Jason
2023-09-28 17:04 ` rjmcmahon
2023-09-28 19:31 ` [Rpm] " Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 19:39 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-28 20:08 ` [Rpm] [LibreQoS] " dan
2023-09-28 20:18 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-29 19:00 ` [Rpm] Getting Google to index. was:Re: [Starlink] " Rodney W. Grimes
2023-09-28 20:36 ` [Rpm] " Jeremy Austin
2023-09-28 20:54 ` [Rpm] [Bloat] " Livingood, Jason
2023-09-28 20:48 ` [Rpm] [Starlink] " Livingood, Jason
2023-09-28 22:19 ` [Rpm] [Bloat] " David Lang
2023-09-29 4:54 ` Jonathan Morton
2023-09-29 12:28 ` Rich Brown
2023-09-29 16:15 ` dan
2023-09-30 12:00 ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-09-30 12:19 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-30 12:42 ` [Rpm] [Starlink] [Bloat] " Vint Cerf
2023-09-30 14:07 ` Sebastian Moeller
[not found] ` <CAMo6_mstw1tKjZfonQ=3Zc5TNqrffkEiUEXzCxLUf85o3kJs9A@mail.gmail.com>
2023-09-30 15:20 ` [Rpm] [Bloat] [Starlink] " Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-30 15:23 ` [Rpm] [LibreQoS] [Bloat] [Starlink] " Dave Taht
2023-09-30 17:35 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-30 21:57 ` [Rpm] New email list: NNagain for network neutrality Dave Taht
2023-10-04 22:19 ` [Rpm] [Bloat] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] net neutrality back in the news Michael Richardson
2023-09-29 6:24 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-29 6:31 ` Gert Doering [this message]
2023-09-29 7:07 ` [Rpm] [Starlink] [Bloat] " Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 22:25 ` [Rpm] " David Lang
2023-09-28 17:10 ` [Rpm] [Bloat] " Livingood, Jason
2023-09-28 19:30 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-28 20:05 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 21:07 ` [Rpm] [EXTERNAL] " Livingood, Jason
2023-09-28 21:08 ` Livingood, Jason
2023-09-29 8:56 ` [Rpm] [Bloat] [EXTERNAL] " Erik Auerswald
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