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From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: [Starlink] Re: Amazon Leo announcing up to 1 Gbps (DOWN) and 400 Mbps (UP)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2025 16:58:46 -0700 (MST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00q8p152-5449-s323-7s0o-939sorop5o09@ynat.uz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJUtOOieVvaJ0K=7neAr6uXh7aSkXdXsvg8C_BimHFzi2CGzKg@mail.gmail.com>

'up to'

We'll see if they can deliver.

There are people here who keep saying that Starlink cannot provide higher speeds 
due to limitations on the total spectrum available to each cell. Leo will have 
far fewer satellites (at least for a very long while), so the only way they will 
be able to provide higher speeds is if they have far fewer customers.

That does not sound like a way to win in the long run to me.

David Lang


On Sat, 6 Dec 2025, Frantisek Borsik via Starlink wrote:

> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2025 16:36:39 +0100
> From: Frantisek Borsik via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Reply-To: Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>
> To: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Subject: [Starlink] Amazon Leo announcing up to 1 Gbps (DOWN) and 400 Mbps
>     (UP)
> 
> https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7398740927332352000/
>
> No word on expected latencies, though.
>
> Just: "The antenna is powered by a custom silicon chip designed by Amazon
> Leo and incorporates Amazon's proprietary radio frequency (RF) design and
> signal processing algorithms that maximize throughput while minimizing
> latency—critical factors for applications like video conferencing,
> real-time monitoring, and cloud computing. Leo Ultra also features advanced
> networking capabilities, including simultaneous upload and download
> capabilities and seamless integration with existing enterprise network
> infrastructure." at
> https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/amazon-leo/amazon-leo-satellite-internet-ultra-pro
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank
>
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>
>
> *In loving memory of Dave Täht: *1965-2025
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-06 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-06 15:36 [Starlink] Amazon Leo announcing up to 1 Gbps (DOWN) and 400 Mbps (UP) Frantisek Borsik
2025-12-06 16:36 ` [Starlink] " J Pan
2025-12-06 23:58 ` David Lang [this message]
2025-12-07  0:02   ` Inemesit Affia
2025-12-07  0:08     ` David Lang
2025-12-08  4:31       ` Inemesit Affia
     [not found]         ` <5098.1765221714@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
2025-12-08 20:57           ` David Lang
     [not found]             ` <2609.1765228007@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
2025-12-08 21:15               ` David Lang
2025-12-08 21:22                 ` Michael Kan
2025-12-08 23:19                   ` Inemesit Affia
2025-12-08 23:20                     ` Inemesit Affia
2025-12-08 23:33                   ` David Lang

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