From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lang.hm; dkim=fail; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=none Received: from mail.lang.hm (wsip-70-167-213-146.ph.ph.cox.net [70.167.213.146]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D56C7A5FB31 for ; Sun, 07 Dec 2025 00:58:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.2.2.53] (unknown [10.2.2.53]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87543212C0F; Sat, 6 Dec 2025 15:58:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2025 16:58:46 -0700 (MST) From: David Lang To: Frantisek Borsik cc: Dave Taht via Starlink In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00q8p152-5449-s323-7s0o-939sorop5o09@ynat.uz> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID-Hash: NHXK5EW5FABMNPNXIPPH4B2EPMBNH5ZW X-Message-ID-Hash: NHXK5EW5FABMNPNXIPPH4B2EPMBNH5ZW X-MailFrom: david@lang.hm X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 3.3.10 X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: Amazon Leo announcing up to 1 Gbps (DOWN) and 400 Mbps (UP) List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: J3VwIHRvJw0KDQpXZSdsbCBzZWUgaWYgdGhleSBjYW4gZGVsaXZlci4NCg0KVGhlcmUgYXJlIHBl b3BsZSBoZXJlIHdobyBrZWVwIHNheWluZyB0aGF0IFN0YXJsaW5rIGNhbm5vdCBwcm92aWRlIGhp Z2hlciBzcGVlZHMgDQpkdWUgdG8gbGltaXRhdGlvbnMgb24gdGhlIHRvdGFsIHNwZWN0cnVtIGF2 YWlsYWJsZSB0byBlYWNoIGNlbGwuIExlbyB3aWxsIGhhdmUgDQpmYXIgZmV3ZXIgc2F0ZWxsaXRl cyAoYXQgbGVhc3QgZm9yIGEgdmVyeSBsb25nIHdoaWxlKSwgc28gdGhlIG9ubHkgd2F5IHRoZXkg d2lsbCANCmJlIGFibGUgdG8gcHJvdmlkZSBoaWdoZXIgc3BlZWRzIGlzIGlmIHRoZXkgaGF2ZSBm YXIgZmV3ZXIgY3VzdG9tZXJzLg0KDQpUaGF0IGRvZXMgbm90IHNvdW5kIGxpa2UgYSB3YXkgdG8g d2luIGluIHRoZSBsb25nIHJ1biB0byBtZS4NCg0KRGF2aWQgTGFuZw0KDQoNCk9uIFNhdCwgNiBE ZWMgMjAyNSwgRnJhbnRpc2VrIEJvcnNpayB2aWEgU3Rhcmxpbmsgd3JvdGU6DQoNCj4gRGF0ZTog U2F0LCA2IERlYyAyMDI1IDE2OjM2OjM5ICswMTAwDQo+IEZyb206IEZyYW50aXNlayBCb3JzaWsg dmlhIFN0YXJsaW5rIDxzdGFybGlua0BsaXN0cy5idWZmZXJibG9hdC5uZXQ+DQo+IFJlcGx5LVRv OiBGcmFudGlzZWsgQm9yc2lrIDxmcmFudGlzZWsuYm9yc2lrQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4NCj4gVG86IERh dmUgVGFodCB2aWEgU3RhcmxpbmsgPHN0YXJsaW5rQGxpc3RzLmJ1ZmZlcmJsb2F0Lm5ldD4NCj4g U3ViamVjdDogW1N0YXJsaW5rXSBBbWF6b24gTGVvIGFubm91bmNpbmcgdXAgdG8gMSBHYnBzIChE T1dOKSBhbmQgNDAwIE1icHMNCj4gICAgIChVUCkNCj4gDQo+IGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmxpbmtlZGlu LmNvbS9mZWVkL3VwZGF0ZS91cm46bGk6YWN0aXZpdHk6NzM5ODc0MDkyNzMzMjM1MjAwMC8NCj4N Cj4gTm8gd29yZCBvbiBleHBlY3RlZCBsYXRlbmNpZXMsIHRob3VnaC4NCj4NCj4gSnVzdDogIlRo ZSBhbnRlbm5hIGlzIHBvd2VyZWQgYnkgYSBjdXN0b20gc2lsaWNvbiBjaGlwIGRlc2lnbmVkIGJ5 IEFtYXpvbg0KPiBMZW8gYW5kIGluY29ycG9yYXRlcyBBbWF6b24ncyBwcm9wcmlldGFyeSByYWRp byBmcmVxdWVuY3kgKFJGKSBkZXNpZ24gYW5kDQo+IHNpZ25hbCBwcm9jZXNzaW5nIGFsZ29yaXRo bXMgdGhhdCBtYXhpbWl6ZSB0aHJvdWdocHV0IHdoaWxlIG1pbmltaXppbmcNCj4gbGF0ZW5jeeKA lGNyaXRpY2FsIGZhY3RvcnMgZm9yIGFwcGxpY2F0aW9ucyBsaWtlIHZpZGVvIGNvbmZlcmVuY2lu ZywNCj4gcmVhbC10aW1lIG1vbml0b3JpbmcsIGFuZCBjbG91ZCBjb21wdXRpbmcuIExlbyBVbHRy YSBhbHNvIGZlYXR1cmVzIGFkdmFuY2VkDQo+IG5ldHdvcmtpbmcgY2FwYWJpbGl0aWVzLCBpbmNs dWRpbmcgc2ltdWx0YW5lb3VzIHVwbG9hZCBhbmQgZG93bmxvYWQNCj4gY2FwYWJpbGl0aWVzIGFu ZCBzZWFtbGVzcyBpbnRlZ3JhdGlvbiB3aXRoIGV4aXN0aW5nIGVudGVycHJpc2UgbmV0d29yaw0K PiBpbmZyYXN0cnVjdHVyZS4iIGF0DQo+IGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmFib3V0YW1hem9uLmNvbS9uZXdz L2FtYXpvbi1sZW8vYW1hem9uLWxlby1zYXRlbGxpdGUtaW50ZXJuZXQtdWx0cmEtcHJvDQo+DQo+ IEFsbCB0aGUgYmVzdCwNCj4NCj4gRnJhbmsNCj4NCj4gRnJhbnRpc2VrIChGcmFuaykgQm9yc2lr DQo+DQo+DQo+ICpJbiBsb3ZpbmcgbWVtb3J5IG9mIERhdmUgVMOkaHQ6ICoxOTY1LTIwMjUNCj4N Cj4gaHR0cHM6Ly9saWJyZXFvcy5pby8yMDI1LzA0LzAxL2luLWxvdmluZy1tZW1vcnktb2YtZGF2 ZS8NCj4NCj4NCj4gaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubGlua2VkaW4uY29tL2luL2ZyYW50aXNla2JvcnNpaw0K Pg0KPiBTaWduYWwsIFRlbGVncmFtLCBXaGF0c0FwcDogKzQyMTkxOTQxNjcxNA0KPg0KPiBpTWVz c2FnZSwgbW9iaWxlOiArNDIwNzc1MjMwODg1DQo+DQo+IFNreXBlOiBjYXNpb2E1MzAyY2ENCj4N Cj4gZnJhbnRpc2VrLmJvcnNpa0BnbWFpbC5jb20NCj4gX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18NCj4gU3RhcmxpbmsgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0IC0tIHN0YXJs aW5rQGxpc3RzLmJ1ZmZlcmJsb2F0Lm5ldA0KPiBUbyB1bnN1YnNjcmliZSBzZW5kIGFuIGVtYWls IHRvIHN0YXJsaW5rLWxlYXZlQGxpc3RzLmJ1ZmZlcmJsb2F0Lm5ldA==