From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: Eugene Y Chang <eugene.chang@ieee.org>
Cc: David Lang <david@lang.hm>,
Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>,
Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] SpaceX/Starlink says it's ready for a fall satellite-to-cell service with T-Mobile
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 15:41:33 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
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Eugene Y Chang wrote:
> I expect low data rate because the distance will fall back to a lower coding
> rate.
I think it's going to be more a matter of very large cells, so many people
sharing the available bandwidth
> I observe a difference in my phone’s batter life between urban and rural usage. I expect the battery life to be significantly reduced with Starlink.
> And yes… if the phone isn’t communicating then the battery life isn’t drawn down much…
In my experience, a phone that's trying to find a tower uses more power than one
that has a tower, but is otherwise idle
> But users with high screen times will have to change their habits.
> — avoid receiving text messages (not under the user’s control)
> — don’t receive email pushes
> — stop all the social media updates, messages, and likes.
> — turn off the apps
> — only use the phone for emergencies.
>
> Who are the intended users?
emergancy communication in areas that currently have zero service, primarily
text messages, then voice, then low bandwidth data.
David Lang
> Gene
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>
>> On Jun 3, 2024, at 11:16 AM, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:
>>
>> This is a fallback that will only be if there is no other coverage, and will be a poor data rate.
>>
>> I would expect that the impact to the phone battery would be less than the phone continually searching for a tower
>>
>> Also, SpaceX has pushed back, according to them this isn't observed interference with their signals, instead they reconfigured a satellite to the direct-to-phone frequencies and were able to detect them
>>
>> we'll see what the real story is.
>>
>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2024, Eugene Y Chang via Starlink wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 10:47:32 -1000
>>> From: Eugene Y Chang via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>>
>>> Reply-To: Eugene Y Chang <eugene.chang@ieee.org <mailto:eugene.chang@ieee.org>>
>>> To: Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com <mailto:frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>>
>>> Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Starlink] SpaceX/Starlink says it's ready for a fall
>>> satellite-to-cell service with T-Mobile
>>> I found this line in the article very interesting: The larger 2nd generation SpaceX satellites can connect to the majority of T-Mobile’s 4G and 5G phones over its 1900 MHz spectrum.
>>>
>>> It is exciting a subscriber does not need to buy a new phone.
>>> What is the expected impact to the phone’s battery life?
>>> Any speculations?
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>> Eugene Chang
>>> eugene.chang@ieee.org
>>> o 781-799-0233
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jun 3, 2024, at 8:08 AM, Frantisek Borsik via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> SpaceX & T-Mobile intend to launch direct-to-device (D2D) satellite servicethis fall
>>>> An analyst told us that will give them an 18- to 24-month lead over some rivals
>>>> AT&T & Verizon are still backing AST SpaceMobile as an alternative
>>>>
>>>> https://www.fierce-network.com/wireless/space-x-says-its-ready-fall-direct-satellite-cell-service-t-mobile <https://www.fierce-network.com/wireless/space-x-says-its-ready-fall-direct-satellite-cell-service-t-mobile><https://www.fierce-network.com/wireless/space-x-says-its-ready-fall-direct-satellite-cell-service-t-mobile <https://www.fierce-network.com/wireless/space-x-says-its-ready-fall-direct-satellite-cell-service-t-mobile>>
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>> Frank
>>>>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-03 22:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-03 18:08 Frantisek Borsik
2024-06-03 18:17 ` the keyboard of geoff goodfellow
2024-06-04 12:32 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-03 20:47 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-03 21:16 ` David Lang
2024-06-03 21:57 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-03 21:59 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-06-03 22:41 ` David Lang [this message]
2024-06-04 0:13 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-04 0:54 ` David Lang
2024-06-04 11:20 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-06-04 11:43 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-04 11:54 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-06-04 13:11 ` Ulrich Speidel
2024-06-04 18:10 ` David Lang
2024-06-04 18:51 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-04 18:58 ` Michael Richardson
2024-06-04 23:01 ` Mike Puchol
2024-06-05 3:17 ` David Lang
2024-06-05 4:16 ` Mike Puchol
2024-06-05 4:26 ` David Lang
2024-06-05 4:47 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-05 6:12 ` Mike Puchol
2024-06-05 7:03 ` David Lang
2024-06-05 11:30 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-04 10:42 David Fernández
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