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From: Noel Butler <noel.butler@ausics.net>
To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] APNIC56 last week
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 15:51:54 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <037ad8d2c36f00d7204124b92a7e2a39@ausics.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c21e8044-19ad-4832-bcc0-80886b1fdc08@auckland.ac.nz>

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On 25/09/2023 15:00, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote:

>> 
> IPv6 adoption in Australia (and NZ) is a bit behind the curve, 
> internationally.

A bit? We're dragging our heels :)  Very strange too since Geoff is from 
AU, in fact my home city, fun fact, until I move about 15 years ago we 
apparently lived one street apart.

> 

> I'm not sure how old you are, but I could imagine things going pretty 
> quickly from some point onwards.

Not too distant from retirement, like to think I'd still be kickin on 
for further 25 or so after that

> The point is that an IPv4 allocation is no longer a resource unless you 
> have an active need for it.

Reminds me of a blog post a few years ago I did that showed how many 
well known prominent websites were not reachable by ipv6, I should grab 
that list and recheck them to see how many fail today.

> Incidentally, goodwill isn't the only intangible asset that's worth 
> something - my father used to work in that space for decades and I 
> earned extra pocket money proofreading an M&A textbook for 
> practitioners, and I can tell you that the true list was long, even 40 
> years ago...

Interesting, depends on industry I guess, with hosting, it's just the 
goodwill (userbase), you only own the physical assets that provide the 
services, you cant own a client, nor own their data, same thing for 
(most)  ISP's and RSP's, but I guess in other industries there could be 
other things, and since they don't apply to me I'm ignorant of them.

> You only really "need" IPv4 if you operate a network with a lot of 
> servers that see inbound traffic from random clients in networks you 
> have no control over.

You just named 99.9R% of the services in the world.

> Not sure what you're projecting as your lifetime ;-)

I hope 90 odd, but if I don't retire soon it'll be substantially less 
haha

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Noel Butler

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-25  5:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-19  4:39 Ulrich Speidel
2023-09-20  1:13 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-23  1:33   ` Noel Butler
2023-09-23  1:47     ` Vint Cerf
2023-09-23  4:22       ` Noel Butler
2023-09-23  6:41         ` Gert Doering
2023-09-23 10:53         ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-09-23 11:28           ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-23 12:56             ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-09-25  4:40           ` Noel Butler
2023-09-25  5:00             ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-09-25  5:10               ` Hayden Simon
2023-09-25  5:51               ` Noel Butler [this message]
2023-09-23 12:08     ` Hesham ElBakoury
2023-09-24 18:30     ` Michael Richardson
2023-09-25  4:04       ` Noel Butler
2023-09-21 13:20 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-09-21 19:05   ` Inemesit Affia
2023-09-21 19:08     ` Dave Taht
2023-09-22  8:26     ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-09-22  8:41       ` David Lang
2023-09-22 17:12         ` Michael Richardson
2023-09-22 17:26           ` David Lang
2023-09-22 18:52             ` Michael Richardson
2023-09-23 21:55         ` Larry Press
2023-09-24  2:46           ` Dave Taht
2023-09-24 12:00           ` Hesham ElBakoury
2023-09-25  7:46             ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-09-25  8:59               ` David Lang
2023-09-25 12:30                 ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-09-22 17:00 David Fernández

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