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From: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] Nokia is Pushing for the 1st Cellular Network on the Moon
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 12:04:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <04c633de-1467-4d37-9ba1-57786d935b18@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFvDQ9oJ9vpzKeJcf0hUeHz=SSS3x325vEHieLJdtBzB9zBCKw@mail.gmail.com>


Le 21/01/2024 à 23:59, Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink a écrit :
> Can a terrestrial terminal connect with a 5G terminal on the moon via GEO?
No, it is too far away and the smartphone does not have enough power for 
that.

A terrestrial terminal would connect to a 5G ground station, or maybe 
via a sat reflector back to a ground 5G base station, by using a 5G 
protocol.

This would then talk to a satellite on GEO, but not with a 5G protocol, 
but with an IP-over-Ethernet radio or optical link.

The GEO sat would then forward that to a Lunar orbitter, again not using 
5G protocols.  It would then land on a Moon 5G base station.  That Moon 
5G base station would use a 5G protocol to talk to  5G terminals on the 
Moon.

This IP-over-Ethernet for ground-to-GEO-to-LunarOrbitter would maybe 
involve CCSDS link layer, or maybe an SDA link layer.

A complete 3GPP architecture for 5G Earth-Moon would not be 5G, but 6G, 
because it is too late for 5G.    The architecture would be completely 
rewritten at 3GPP to acommodate that.

Alex

>
> Hesham
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 2:35 PM Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> wrote:
>
>     Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>         > This article is interesting ....
>
>         >
>     https://www.bell-labs.com/research-innovation/network-fundamentals/first-cellular-network-on-the-moon/
>
>     Probably can launch a crate of Nokia 3310 phones as terminals
>     freefloating in
>     a moon intercept orbit from a Falcon 9.
>
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-22 11:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-21 19:32 Hesham ElBakoury
2024-01-21 22:35 ` Michael Richardson
2024-01-21 22:59   ` Hesham ElBakoury
2024-01-21 23:06     ` David Lang
2024-01-21 23:12       ` Michael Richardson
2024-01-22  5:32         ` David Lang
2024-01-22 11:08         ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-01-22 16:18           ` David Lang
2024-01-21 23:12     ` Michael Richardson
2024-01-22 11:07       ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-01-22 11:04     ` Alexandre Petrescu [this message]
2024-01-22  0:26 ` Steve Stroh
2024-01-22 10:35 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-01-23  1:56 ` Joe Hamelin
2024-01-23  7:09   ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2024-01-22  9:26 David Fernández

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