From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.taht.net (mail.taht.net [176.58.107.8]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA8113B29D for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 12:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [IPv6:2600:380:c068:6a08:466:a613:15f1:8e3f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.taht.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8D99422976; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 16:58:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Dave Taht Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.80.0.2.43\)) Message-Id: <052022E9-B380-4926-BD78-A793D60D3085@teklibre.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:58:50 -0700 To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.80.0.2.43) Subject: [Starlink] regional isp meeting fridays 8AM X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 16:58:54 -0000 If anyone here has an ISP or WISP background, especially in the third = world or rural areas=E2=80=A6 we=E2=80=99ve got a meeting this friday = 8AM PDT. If you want in on it, please ask sasha off-list to invite you = in. This might become a regular meeting. =E2=80=A6 Probably a lot of folk here don=E2=80=99t know my background. I=E2=80=99ve= been kicking around the internet since it was called the arpanet. In = 1993 I founded an ISP, and sold it in 1999. Worked on embedded linux = routers from 1993, many forms of wireless tech since 94. I got tired of = running sustaining engineering for mediaplex in 99 - I quit the day they = went public - and had made linux wifi work for us in 98 ( = http://the-edge.blogspot.com/2003/06/wireless-connection.html ) so I = then worked on making embedded linux a reality for a couple years at = montavista, and on various wifi related devices in the very early and = exciting days while wifi swept the coffee shops of the world. In 2006 I tried to retire in nicaragua, where my fantasy was to = duplicate my friend john ackley=E2=80=99s ( = https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-ackley-690053b/ ) success in spreading = the Net through the virgin islands - my business plan was simple: buy a = couple mountain tops, erect towers, do comms of all sorts, turn a = profit, help OLPC support the local school systems and libraries, and = surf a lot. That=E2=80=99s a really long and now-funny story (it ended with a = mexican standoff between myself and the survivor tv show), but along the = way my second deployment went down *for months* with what turned out to = be bufferbloat in rain. Some of that story is encapsulated in this MIT = talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWksh2DPHCDI where I also go into an early version what became the flent tool and = rrul tests.=20 My efforts in the last decade to solve the bufferbloat problem worldwide = were in part driven by the urge to provide internet to schools and = communities throughout the world that hadn=E2=80=99t been reached yet, = and also extend a line to the solar system itself. The good parts of the = internet - like wikipedia - not the bad parts! and: to make up for a = huge mistake I=E2=80=99d made in 06 in not understanding how 802.11n = wifi aggregation was going to screw up the world.=20 (which is now fixed by the APIs in =E2=80=9Cending the anomaly=E2=80=9D, = but there are many other problems left to fix in wifi, encapsulated in = this later talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRb-UnHDw02o ) Ironically I don=E2=80=99t want to move back to Nicaragua - it=E2=80=99s = become too civilized, and I=E2=80=99ve grown enamored of my sailboat, = but I do really want to see the edge of the internet grow to cover the = whole planet and would like to be able to discuss more often, with = like-minded others as to how best to go about it. see ya friday!=