From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr1-x430.google.com (mail-wr1-x430.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::430]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A76C3B29D for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2023 02:02:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wr1-x430.google.com with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-32deb2809daso3864141f8f.3 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2023 23:02:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=connectivitycap.com; s=google; t=1700031722; x=1700636522; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=references:to:cc:in-reply-to:date:subject:mime-version:message-id :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=BYMTx5vX4DlWZGpV87WNsxXXbhoz+TPtYDkB/nd6cic=; b=VMUyFP4rbFupk8I34kc+aAS8s0DXxqhaq2ae/7YQjNqDvedRjtefbC0adqkMUSZzgP ApP9vuCTRXabVPlNvdN0urUm96+YoMbs6tpmylHF7CCqFyrEbfy3ATQgSM7u8/p3AJfu 4cMX7dWBRH/6V9A+x6QwWNTG26fZ0RrDpJLEVcezr90CVTWI+cPBG/e9ziRagj5vqqm8 9SoSY+Xirciw9mndB5gmqWzGDY9vaiA+41GojWlZ7LxfdVRjAaSWMknl++k3UIu1UifB rCAB//c/gu8CEBgXOZ8mCZmyLz7BJjJxEqSUEzan8amDRceWACHAoauIRXilkm1LJoOc 9bHQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1700031722; x=1700636522; h=references:to:cc:in-reply-to:date:subject:mime-version:message-id :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=BYMTx5vX4DlWZGpV87WNsxXXbhoz+TPtYDkB/nd6cic=; b=nseV65Ws08FIzUT2RJXu4VJ8w7N+83RaxVT2n6umMwtWFfvfHmp/AO+k8ew2XObAGM vlTaEIR4PozCBwke28/l/43BxK+iXgJEuMCJq8f9J/hHgXKi+ebF4jaXWiFdQ9FUu8t1 gcJUqhzz8NIbP1SpcR9KP5+KGER34hvpDu9h3gS8pgqYnrReHwidJ5JjibLkYr95NZwK euU1SkZ8buxL1kpYDK/6xYtfxnzO1d0FSuIVeOr2R2mAO1s8mMrRjVGyK4haWtDKXByh vJSVlqrE6Asztn5SPeRywgV6OG7YMbh7jnYVBDbx5NYrgJF5xpERC8B36uM/G2g8h3gY RbMw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxzcGI/w1WKZz+jU5rduT6BtGKBpLpBNnrppAAr1lgoQ5opAn7o gQqX2PQ+jFzz+eBM5jHABc195w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFKq9qHlk1FRy5hYswk/4M4LIkv/4T8HAHIqkei31JH/Q+pZDYg1qMwpbaA4q0mARChVwr0Hw== X-Received: by 2002:adf:ecc9:0:b0:32d:baf4:e572 with SMTP id s9-20020adfecc9000000b0032dbaf4e572mr7891685wro.23.1700031721703; Tue, 14 Nov 2023 23:02:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([105.28.119.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a15-20020a5d456f000000b0032ddf2804ccsm9658701wrc.83.2023.11.14.23.01.59 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 14 Nov 2023 23:02:00 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Forster Message-Id: <061BCB88-D7AB-4707-AC29-66968AD13480@connectivitycap.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C8BDE4D3-FFCF-4D83-B884-7C9FE367DF7B" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.200.91.1.1\)) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 09:01:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: Cc: Starlink To: Inemesit Affia References: <34D160E7-6C8F-4882-B1C3-570DF3D3854F@connectivitycap.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.200.91.1.1) Subject: Re: [Starlink] Question on Startlink density X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 07:02:04 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C8BDE4D3-FFCF-4D83-B884-7C9FE367DF7B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Oh, sorry, I was not clear. The question is could they support 100 = terminals along a mile. Each a separate consumer residential account. > On Nov 15, 2023, at 8:55=E2=80=AFAM, Inemesit Affia = wrote: >=20 > What you're planning might we'll be against the Starlink TOS. >=20 > Just contact https://old.reddit.com/user/millijuna. He's done = something similar >=20 > Beyond that networks are networks. You estimate your peak traffic, = find out the worst case speed on starlink and get software/hardware to = shape & prioritize traffic/users so phone calls work when the WAN can't = do video. Check out libreqos >=20 > Also the owner of starlink.sx is on this mailing = list and has experience with this sort of thing Yeah, I=E2=80=99ve asked Mike :-) =E2=80=94 Jim >=20 > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023, 7:13 AM Jim Forster via Starlink = > = wrote: >>=20 >> Does Starlink=E2=80=99s beam forming support delivering services to = about 100 home stretched over one mile? The place in question would = like to do fiber, but it=E2=80=99s in a senstive area, so getting = permits is tricky (cannot use any previously undisturbed land), and so = the fiber project has dragged on. Now SL is available and some are = getting it. That=E2=80=99s fine, but could it support 100 over one = linear mile? >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >> =E2=80=94 Jim >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net = >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink --Apple-Mail=_C8BDE4D3-FFCF-4D83-B884-7C9FE367DF7B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Oh, sorry, I = was not clear. The question is could they support 100 terminals along a = mile.  Each a separate consumer residential account.

On Nov 15, 2023, at 8:55=E2=80=AFAM, Inemesit Affia = <inemesitaffia@gmail.com> wrote:

What you're = planning might we'll be against the Starlink TOS.

Just contact https://old.reddit.com/user= /millijuna. He's done something similar

Beyond that networks are = networks. You estimate your peak traffic, find out the worst case speed = on starlink and get software/hardware to shape & prioritize = traffic/users so phone calls work when the WAN can't do video. Check out = libreqos

Also the = owner of starlink.sx is on this = mailing list and has experience with this sort of = thing

Yeah, I=E2=80=99v= e asked Mike :-)

   =E2=80=94 = Jim


On Wed, Nov = 15, 2023, 7:13 AM Jim Forster via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.= net> wrote:

Does Starlink=E2=80=99s beam forming support delivering services to = about 100 home stretched over one mile?  The place in question = would like to do fiber, but it=E2=80=99s in a senstive area, so getting = permits is tricky (cannot use any previously undisturbed land), and so = the fiber project has dragged on.  Now SL is available and some are = getting it.  That=E2=80=99s fine, but could it support 100 over one = linear mile?

Thanks,

  =E2=80=94 Jim
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