From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.taht.net (mail.taht.net [IPv6:2a01:7e00:e000:2d4:f00f:f00f:b33b:b33b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D80103B2A4 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2021 12:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [IPv6:2600:1010:b019:87ea:3dcb:b3d7:5b6b:c25a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.taht.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C8E822C07 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2021 16:55:43 +0000 (UTC) From: Dave Taht Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.80.0.2.43\)) Message-Id: <0AED1049-41F0-4B55-B80A-EF42FED63494@teklibre.net> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 09:55:41 -0700 To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.80.0.2.43) Subject: [Starlink] how codel works to manage tcp queue delay X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 16:55:45 -0000 This talk at stanford is still the best one I=E2=80=99d ever given on = codel.=20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMxoa5Si4Ubw The codel portion starts about 25 minutes in: the ACM queue paper, which is excellent but has an incorrect wifi model = (since corrected), is here: https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3D2209336 In all my other talks to before and since=E2=80=A6 usually when I get = through how tcp works, the audience and I are wiped out and we never get = to the codel part, much less be able to talk about rfc3168 ecn or fair = queuing=E2=80=A6 It=E2=80=99s pretty clear - in re-viewing this talk so many years later, = we lost much of the audience - but kathie and I at least, had a ton of = fun.=20