This is pretty impressive... and also is a decent counter against the common argument that at BNG/backbone information rates flow queuing would be completely infeasible... or it might show that big iron silicon is just inferior to general purpose CPUs On 7 June 2024 04:28:18 CEST, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: >I occasionally am happy to point out the 150+ isps now running libreqos and >cake... the several hundred running preseem and paraqum and bequant... > >As a rule of thumb about 10k wisp subscribers eat around 25gbit. This we >(libreqos anyway) can do easily on a 1500 dollar whitebox (and we have >pushed it past 60gbit in the v1.5 release entering beta shortly). This is >usually way more capability than any given isp network segment needs... > >The wisps have got fq codel available native in much of their gear too, and >of course starlink on their wifi... > >There are probably 60k isps left to go though. There are isps still on >docsis 3.0. I tend to regard these issues nowadays as being demand side as >these solutions are so widely available now... > >But with billions being spent to just upgrade to fiber... a dark cloud >ahead is above 50mbit most of the bloat moves to the wifi... and despite >eero, openwrt, Google fiber etc that have been getting it right... sigh. > >A bright light at the moment there is all the wifi products coming out with >a mt79 chip. > >On Thu, Jun 6, 2024, 10:51 AM Stuart Cheshire wrote: > >> On Jun 4, 2024, at 16:03, Rich Brown wrote: >> >> > Yeah... I didn't write that as carefully as I could have. I was >> switching between "user voice" (who'll say 'speed') and "expert" voice (I >> know the difference). Check it now: >> https://randomneuronsfiring.com/all-the-reasons-that-bufferbloat-isnt-a-problem/ >> >> Thanks for doing that. >> >> How about also changing “new faster ISP plan” to “new bigger ISP plan”? I >> know that may sound like a slightly weird phrase, but getting people’s >> attention by surprising them a little can be beneficial. If it looks weird >> to them and that makes them pause and think, then that’s good. >> >> If the hypothetical ISP imagined here were actually willing to offer a >> plan that truly provided consistently *faster* connectivity instead of just >> more of the same, we’d be very happy. The truth today is that most IPs >> offer *bigger*, not *better*. They are selling quantity, not quality. >> >> (I am intentionally not lumping *all* ISPs into the same bucket here. >> Some, like Comcast, are actually making big efforts to improve quality as >> well as quantity. Comcast dramatically reduced the working latency of my >> cable modem during the work-from-home pandemic, and they continue to work >> on improving that even more. I want to be sure to give credit where it is >> deserved.) >> >> Stuart Cheshire >> >> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.